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March 12, 2017 at 19:22 #1291463
Well done Zark, for getting the big price.
Anyway it’s nonsense to suggest Gordon should come on here after every bet he’s done to let us know what he’s done.
I haven’t.
I don’t put up every bet I’ve done either.
If people want to say a long time afterwards what price they’ve got, that’s their choice. Although I’m personally far more likely to take notice of someone’s bets if they put them up at the time, because it’s not selective.
However, do think it’s wrong to include them in a thread that has a profit/loss at the end of it. Just allows the person to include what’s shortened considerably and not include what’s already been lost or lengthens.
But I seem to be in a minority.
Value Is EverythingMarch 12, 2017 at 22:51 #1291516I’ve spent the whole season trying to get Unowhatimeanharry beaten but he’s just too good for this lot. I spewed a couple of quid on Alex De Larredya prior to the Long Walk and had a bit on Snow Falcon e/w mid-season, but those look dead in the water. The non-runner frog certainly is!
Snow Falcon, Ballyoptic, Shaneshill, Clondaw Warrior and West Approach are much of a muchness. They’ll all run around 160 and any two could fill the frame. I was hoping for a bit of improvement from Snow Falcon up in trip this year but it doesn’t seem forthcoming.
Cole Harden could go either way from his last run with the Greatrex yard hardly known for reviving jaded horses. Even if he sharpens up, he’d need a career-best off level weights. I’ve always viewed Jezki as a bit of a fraud Champion Hurdler (shaped like the fourth-best horse in his year) and his comeback efforts have been about 25lbs below the standard required here. He’ll probably improve on the good ground but needs a lifetime best.
I can’t believe I’m saying this after opposing every time this season, but Unowhatimeanharry looks like the short-priced banker of the meeting to me.
March 12, 2017 at 23:03 #1291519I think you’ll see a different Snow Falcon on decent ground. He was cantering three out before he fell when UKWIMH won at Newbury, and I think realistically, he would be the one horse that would have given him a proper race this season.
March 15, 2017 at 22:58 #1292492Stone cold banker is Unowhatimeanharry. If he treads on a stone in the morning I’d back Lil Rockerfeller E/W.
March 15, 2017 at 23:32 #1292523Wrong thread
March 15, 2017 at 23:35 #1292525Oh well while I am here, Ballyoptic at 16-1 looks a fantastic each way chance
March 16, 2017 at 01:26 #1292547My 100% Book:
6/5 Unowhatimeanharry, 17/2 Jezki, 11/1 Cole Harden, 12/1 Ballyoptic, 18/1 Nichols Canyon, 18/1 Shaneshill, 22/1 Lil Rockafella, 25/1 Clondaw Warrior, 25/1 Snow Falcon, 25/1 West Approach, 50/1 Zarkandar, 200/1 Agrapart, 1000/1 Dedigout.Backed ante-post Unowhatimeanharry 6/1, Ballyoptic 25/1 and saver Jezki 10/1.
Just taken 35/1 Lil Rockafella.Value Is EverythingMarch 16, 2017 at 01:30 #1292549Ginge why do you feel Cold Harden is only an 11/1 shot to be able to get back to his best?
March 16, 2017 at 03:32 #1292559Ginge why do you feel Cold Harden is only an 11/1 shot to be able to get back to his best?
Cole Harden is imo back to his best, Ben.
Looking at the Stayers Hurdle he won:
Beating Saphir Du Rheu 3 1/2 lengths is nowhere near Unowhatimeanharry’s form.
Had Zarkandar not fluffed 2 out would’ve pushed him close too.
CH ran just as well at Aintree when bebaten 3 1/2 lengths by Whisper.Much has been made of his supposedly being better on a firmer surface. Although some rivals don’t act on it and can be hard to peg front runners back on good/good-firm going… CH’s actual “form” is just as good on a soft surface.
Surely a 6 1/2 lengths 3rd place trying to give Thistlecrack 4 lbs at Newbury on soft, was as good as a 3 1/2 lengths win over Saphir De Rheu?Getting within 1 3/4 lengths of Unowhatimeanharry last time out (on soft) was a pretty good run too. But today’s favourite was giving 8 lbs that day and won without being asked a serious question. It’s the same form as had Uno won by 9 1/2 lengths at levels without being asked a serious question. If that had been the case don’t think Cole Harden would be so short, even with Greatrex stable going well.
imo At least 5 here have better form than he does.
imo Cole Harden will need to get a soft lead to win (which is possible)… However, Ballyoptic could well take him on and I always think Nichols Caanyon’s best races/jumps better from the front or the other Wylie – Shaneshill. West Approach has made it, but suspect he’ll be dropped out.
Perhaps the reason why he’s so short right now is more to do with being the Pricewise tip tomorrow. ie Bookies don’t want to lay him yet so has has been prematurely shortened.
Value Is EverythingMarch 16, 2017 at 03:49 #1292561Favourite has done what Thistlecrack did last year really.
Should be odds on. Just like The Crack should’ve been last year.
I have however been looking for something to get him beat.
Played Jezki at 15/2
March 16, 2017 at 15:39 #1292746Gutted
March 16, 2017 at 15:42 #1292747Mullins is Back! What a ride by Ruby. Turns out Nichols Canyon is a stayer and at 7 he could have a bright future over 3 miles.
March 16, 2017 at 15:46 #1292749You and me both botchy. When I saw Noel Fehily’s bottom giving him a bit off
a gee up with about 3/4 mile to go, my heart sank. I had a bad feeling about it.
I thought Nichols Canyon was the one I feared most at the start of the day,
and as I had a pile coming back on Harry, I had a decent bet on him at 12/1
(mentioned on the day 3 betting thread), but I can’t say that I’m not really
disappointedMarch 16, 2017 at 15:50 #1292752Great race by Lil Rockefeller! Was all over him, still a nice profit, but it would have been massive had he jumped the last a bit faster.
March 16, 2017 at 16:00 #1292757Disappointed with UKWIMH! Was worried under the mile out also
West approach – rubys ride was alot better than people give him credit for that day, he was hopeless today
Ballyoptic – useless had a bit e/w on him
March 16, 2017 at 16:04 #1292758Ouch!
Had 6/1 UNWIMH and 35/1 and a bit of 49/1 Lil.Nichols Canyon produced a great turn of foot shown by the overhead camera. Well done to his backers.
UNWIMH ran well enough. Won on similar ground at last year’s Festival, but inprovement this season has been on a Soft surface.
Value Is EverythingMarch 16, 2017 at 16:36 #1292767Thanks for putting me off Cole Harden Ginge, that and the watered ground was enough to stop me having a bet, didn’t expect NC to win but sometimes class shines through, very good horse.
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