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Sorry, buddy, but you’re severely confused if you think Geraghty lost the race.
It wasn’t just the abysmal ride- there is also the stable’s woeful form at the time to take into consideration.
Whilst I concur that Yorkhill displayed a superior turn of foot to Yanworth on the day (and that Racing UK is rubbish, by the way!), I respectfully disagree that Geraghty’s ride didn’t cost Alan King’s charge the race. Your hypothesis falls down at the very first: Walsh would never have been posted six wide in the first place as, for all his faults, he isn’t complacent enough to believe that he can concede so much ground in a championship race.
Even if we are to accept your scenario, Yorkhill would probably have pulled far too hard for his own good with no cover and run himself into the ground. I know that fans of the Mullins charge will argue that he fought Ruby at Aintree yet still won going away but Yanworth is no Le Prezien.
Come to think of it, you can register with RUK for free and watch Yanworth contemptuously dismissing Paul Nicholls’ gelding at Warwick in November 2015. He certainly beat Le Prezien far more comfortably there than Yorkhill did at Aintree.
Anyway, we digress: Yorkhill apparently isn’t going to be supplemented for the Champion Hurdle (although we all know that Willie Mullins can change his mind), so this conversation is moot. Yanworth remains the one to beat in this year’s opening day highlight.
Yorkhill couldn’t have had a more ideal passage in the Neptune.
Not only was Yanworth given a terrible ride in the Neptune but, as has been mentioned many times before, King’s stable was in shockingly bad form last March.
There seems to be a lot of anti-Yanworth feeling in this thread, which surprises me. He would be unbeaten over hurdles but for Geraghty’s ineptitude and the stable being under a cloud at last year’s festival; maybe he doesn’t do enough to wow some onlookers, I suppose.
That’s exactly it.
And the only reason why BD is above him in the betting.
I should of cashed out.
To be fair to buveur dair, watching a replay of that surpreme he ran on really well.
you could say he was given a bit of a quiet ride, tried to sneak into it but the monster altior was away and gone. My guess is buveur dair has improved a fair bit since too.
I’d much rather have buveur dair than brain power as he’s a flat track horse who’s also proven at cheltenham. Brain power has only looked impressive at flat tracks, will he get up the hill? or maybe that hill argument is overplayed.
I guess with yanworth both arguments are valid. either he’s a slow boat who’s been unimpressive in his races because that’s as good as he is, and he’s vulnerable to a killer bit of speed at the end of a race, or he’s the type who only does enough and his grinding style is made for the champion hurdle.
Looking at the 2016 Neptune, Yanworth was beaten fair and square. He didn’t have the speed to go with Yorkhill when he quickened.
On the plus side, he did run up the hill EXTREMELY well and that’s very encouraging. Champion hurdle likely to be run at a quicker pace which will also be in his favour as well.
I trust all the Yanworth knockers will return to this thread to eat a large slice of humble pie after he powers away to win the Champion Hurdle
I don’t like Petit Mouchoir at all. What did he achieve last time? Didn’t jump that well and was being closed down quickly by footpad at the line. Champion hurdle will be much tougher than smashing up weak fields in Ireland.
On the plus side for him, he seems to have been liberated by Elliot’s decision to discard that ugly headwear that he wore in the supreme. I’m of the belief that far too many horses are put in blinkers, or cheekpieces when there’s no need.
I trust all the Yanworth knockers will return to this thread to eat a large slice of humble pie after he powers away to win the Champion Hurdle
If Yanworth wins I will be back on here later that night congratulating those that were on. If he fails and is done for speed then I will also come back to gloat and tell anyone that will listen why it was painfully obvious he wouldn’t win.
If he fails and is done for speed then I will also come back to gloat and tell anyone that will listen why it was painfully obvious he wouldn’t win.
Can I take it, then, that every single opinion you’ve ever had about a horse has been correct?
If Yanworth wins, great. If he doesn’t, we were wrong. Who is right all the time? Nobody. I see no need for either excessive celebration or childish gloating, whatever happens.
My take on Yanworth is that his ‘workmanlike’ performances this seasons will harden him up for the Champion. He knows how to battle and could be very difficult to beat in a tussle for the line. Seems the kind of horse who’ll get his head in front where it matters most whether he’s impressive or not. I certainly wouldn’t discount him … especially if the going turns heavy!
Buveur D’Air could be anything but he does remind me of Darlan a lot.
If he fails and is done for speed then I will also come back to gloat and tell anyone that will listen why it was painfully obvious he wouldn’t win.
Can I take it, then, that every single opinion you’ve ever had about a horse has been correct?
If Yanworth wins, great. If he doesn’t, we were wrong. Who is right all the time? Nobody. I see no need for either excessive celebration or childish gloating, whatever happens.
Never a truer word spoken.
I think this is one of these races where you can’t be too certain beforehand. That’s why it’s useful to debate it
If he fails and is done for speed then I will also come back to gloat and tell anyone that will listen why it was painfully obvious he wouldn’t win.
Can I take it, then, that every single opinion you’ve ever had about a horse has been correct?
If Yanworth wins, great. If he doesn’t, we were wrong. Who is right all the time? Nobody. I see no need for either excessive celebration or childish gloating, whatever happens.
Stop being so serious ffs. A bit of tongune in cheek banter and your asking me if I am always right. Time to chill out
A bit of tongune in cheek banter and your asking me if I am always right. Time to chill out
The problem is that it’s impossible to tell if it’s merely banter when it’s in black and white on a screen. Maybe you could use an emoticon next time.
A bit of tongune in cheek banter and your asking me if I am always right. Time to chill out
The problem is that it’s impossible to tell if it’s merely banter when it’s in black and white on a screen. Maybe you could use an emoticon next time.
Done
Walsh would never have been posted six wide in the first place as, for all his faults, he isn’t complacent enough to believe that he can concede so much ground in a championship race.
Yesterday remind me of binocular the season he won the champion hurdle.
Binocular had injury problems and an interrupted season and hendo managed to get him for enough for the kingwell, which is a similar scenario to yanworth.
Binocular wasn’t 100% fit but won by 1 length in workmanlike fashion, just like yanworth yesterday. But he came on bundles for the run and won the champion hurdle.
Can see the same happening with yanworthYorkhill couldn’t have had a more ideal passage in the Neptune.
Not only was Yanworth given a terrible ride in the Neptune but, as has been mentioned many times before, King’s stable was in shockingly bad form last March.
There seems to be a lot of anti-Yanworth feeling in this thread, which surprises me. He would be unbeaten over hurdles but for Geraghty’s ineptitude and the stable being under a cloud at last year’s festival; maybe he doesn’t do enough to wow some onlookers, I suppose.
Sorry, buddy, but you’re severely confused if you think Geraghty lost the race.
You could switch Yanworth and Yorkhill’s positions in that race and the result would be identical. In fact, I’d go so far as to say that Yorkhill would have beaten Yanworth by further.
Allow me to direct you to a point of the Neptune, which is a key part of the race as it effectively decided who won. Unfortunately the 2016 Neptune’s not on YouTube, as the guys in charge of RUK do their very best to keep profits down by failing to attract new fans of the sport by putting out replays of races that happened nearly a year ago.
Anyway, some of you will remember that Yorkhill had to go for a gap up the inside, just before turning for home. He had to go for that gap because he was racing on the inside.
You know what would have happened if Yanworth had been in that position? He’d have been f****d. No way does he possess anything like the speed or turn of foot of Yorkhill. If Yorkhill had been on the outside and Yanworth on the inside, and Geraghty had run straight into a wall of horses because he failed to get that inside gap (1.01 that would have happened IMO), Yorkhill would have won by further and people would be slagging off Geraghty all the same and saying he should have gone round the outside.
So no, Geraghty did not lose that race – Yorkhill’s participation lost Yanworth the race.
You can watch all Cheltenham-races full-replay at the jockeyclub website:
http://www.thejockeyclub.co.uk/video/20160316/2582229/15382612
Itsafreebee really didn’t help Yanworth either by swinging out that far at the final turn.
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