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Watched the race again twice and just cannot make Yanworth out. I don’t believe trip or track make any difference to him but he always seems to move much more sweetly with horses in front of him. First time out this season I’d have bet plenty he was keeping lots back for himself and I thought it was a temperament issue. Now, I’m not so sure. Although he delivers each time, he looks to resent pressure. He went noticeably right running into two out today. Didn’t cock his jaw but his head definitely went and the rest followed. Did the same close home on the run-in. Wouldn’t rule out a physical issue with him.
Buveur D’Air will scorch home in the Champion Hurdle. Different level to the rest of them.
Watched the race again twice and just cannot make Yanworth out. I don’t believe trip or track make any difference to him but he always seems to move much more sweetly with horses in front of him. First time out this season I’d have bet plenty he was keeping lots back for himself and I thought it was a temperament issue. Now, I’m not so sure. Although he delivers each time, he looks to resent pressure. He went noticeably right running into two out today. Didn’t cock his jaw but his head definitely went and the rest followed. Did the same close home on the run-in. Wouldn’t rule out a physical issue with him.
I don’t know what I’m going to back in the CH but I think I’d prefer Yanworth to a bridle horse like Buveur D’Air and Sceau Royal. I don’t think Yanworth has an issue, I think he is very game because essentially he’s a stayer – his most impressive looking performance was at 2 1/2 on heavy at Cheltenham. Alan King’s horses weren’t right and Yanworth was given an interesting ride yet he battled on in the Neptune, on his seasonal reappearance and today he was only 90% fit, and both today and at Kempton he was faced with a sharpish test at 2 miles but responded to pressure and some degree of adversity to be firmly on top at the line.
Really don’t get why people are surprised about today?
Yanworth was recently injured a few weeks back and there was talk of him going straight to CH with out a prep run. They have managed to get him ok enough for today’s race but he was no where near 100% for and still won.
He will come bundles for this race plus he will have the hill and a fast pace which is suitablehe will have the hill and a fast pace which is suitable
He had the hill and a trip that was supposed to suit last year and had Yorkhill been held onto by Ruby he would have left Yanworth for dead on the run in. If there is anything lurking with a turn of foot – Brain Power, Superb Story, perhaps even Moon Racer who beat Yanworth comfortably in the Bumper – Yanworth will look very slow.
he will have the hill and a fast pace which is suitable
He had the hill and a trip that was supposed to suit last year and had Yorkhill been held onto by Ruby he would have left Yanworth for dead on the run in. If there is anything lurking with a turn of foot – Brain Power, Superb Story, perhaps even Moon Racer who beat Yanworth comfortably in the Bumper – Yanworth will look very slow.
I am not on Yanworth but I think you are being a little bit unfair. He was given a shocker by McCoy in the bumper but for which he would have finished closer and Yorkhill couldn’t have had a more ideal passage in the Neptune.
Yorkhill and Moon Racer had far from optimum races themselves, though, esp Yorkhill who was hampered before 3 out after pulling early doors, and being none too clever at a couple of jumps AND being produced way too early.
Yorkhill couldn’t have had a more ideal passage in the Neptune.
Not only was Yanworth given a terrible ride in the Neptune but, as has been mentioned many times before, King’s stable was in shockingly bad form last March.
There seems to be a lot of anti-Yanworth feeling in this thread, which surprises me. He would be unbeaten over hurdles but for Geraghty’s ineptitude and the stable being under a cloud at last year’s festival; maybe he doesn’t do enough to wow some onlookers, I suppose.
…AND being produced way too early.
That would be the same Yorkhill who led six furlongs out and three furlongs out in his two bumpers; took it up about a mile from home in his Grade One novice hurdle victory at Aintree and has made most of the running in his two novice chases, right?
he will have the hill and a fast pace which is suitable
He had the hill and a trip that was supposed to suit last year and had Yorkhill been held onto by Ruby he would have left Yanworth for dead on the run in. If there is anything lurking with a turn of foot – Brain Power, Superb Story, perhaps even Moon Racer who beat Yanworth comfortably in the Bumper – Yanworth will look very slow.
This guy’s delusions have gotten so great that he thinks a 149-rated County Hurdle winner, with nothing more than a Grade 3 handicap win to his name, or a twice-raced-over-hurdles-novice will pose a threat to Yanworth. His signature gets more and more ironic every day.
Yorkhill and Moon Racer had far from optimum races themselves, though, esp Yorkhill who was hampered before 3 out after pulling early doors, and being none too clever at a couple of jumps AND being produced way too early.
You’ve got yourself all muddled up here, which isn’t really a surprise.
You say Yorkhill was hampered…but then you say he was produced too early. So clearly wasn’t bothered by being hampered then…
he will have the hill and a fast pace which is suitable
He had the hill and a trip that was supposed to suit last year and had Yorkhill been held onto by Ruby he would have left Yanworth for dead on the run in. If there is anything lurking with a turn of foot – Brain Power, Superb Story, perhaps even Moon Racer who beat Yanworth comfortably in the Bumper – Yanworth will look very slow.
I am not on Yanworth but I think you are being a little bit unfair. He was given a shocker by McCoy in the bumper but for which he would have finished closer and Yorkhill couldn’t have had a more ideal passage in the Neptune.
Am I seeing things? Or are people legitimately bringing in bumper form from 2 years ago as a viable reason as to why a novice might beat Yanworth?
Yorkhill couldn’t have had a more ideal passage in the Neptune.
Not only was Yanworth given a terrible ride in the Neptune but, as has been mentioned many times before, King’s stable was in shockingly bad form last March.
There seems to be a lot of anti-Yanworth feeling in this thread, which surprises me. He would be unbeaten over hurdles but for Geraghty’s ineptitude and the stable being under a cloud at last year’s festival; maybe he doesn’t do enough to wow some onlookers, I suppose.
Sorry, buddy, but you’re severely confused if you think Geraghty lost the race.
You could switch Yanworth and Yorkhill’s positions in that race and the result would be identical. In fact, I’d go so far as to say that Yorkhill would have beaten Yanworth by further.
Allow me to direct you to a point of the Neptune, which is a key part of the race as it effectively decided who won. Unfortunately the 2016 Neptune’s not on YouTube, as the guys in charge of RUK do their very best to keep profits down by failing to attract new fans of the sport by putting out replays of races that happened nearly a year ago.
Anyway, some of you will remember that Yorkhill had to go for a gap up the inside, just before turning for home. He had to go for that gap because he was racing on the inside.
You know what would have happened if Yanworth had been in that position? He’d have been f****d. No way does he possess anything like the speed or turn of foot of Yorkhill. If Yorkhill had been on the outside and Yanworth on the inside, and Geraghty had run straight into a wall of horses because he failed to get that inside gap (1.01 that would have happened IMO), Yorkhill would have won by further and people would be slagging off Geraghty all the same and saying he should have gone round the outside.
So no, Geraghty did not lose that race – Yorkhill’s participation lost Yanworth the race.
Yanworth might not travel as well as some of the bridle ponces shorter than him in the betting, but unlike the new one he has the cruising speed to lay up with them and I would expect him to grind them down up the hill.
In fact I’m starting to think he’s one of the bankers of the meeting.
Watched the race again twice and just cannot make Yanworth out. I don’t believe trip or track make any difference to him but he always seems to move much more sweetly with horses in front of him. First time out this season I’d have bet plenty he was keeping lots back for himself and I thought it was a temperament issue. Now, I’m not so sure. Although he delivers each time, he looks to resent pressure. He went noticeably right running into two out today. Didn’t cock his jaw but his head definitely went and the rest followed. Did the same close home on the run-in. Wouldn’t rule out a physical issue with him.
I don’t know what I’m going to back in the CH but I think I’d prefer Yanworth to a bridle horse like Buveur D’Air and Sceau Royal. I don’t think Yanworth has an issue, I think he is very game because essentially he’s a stayer – his most impressive looking performance was at 2 1/2 on heavy at Cheltenham. Alan King’s horses weren’t right and Yanworth was given an interesting ride yet he battled on in the Neptune, on his seasonal reappearance and today he was only 90% fit, and both today and at Kempton he was faced with a sharpish test at 2 miles but responded to pressure and some degree of adversity to be firmly on top at the line.
totally agree with all of this. time and again punters fall in love with speed horses like buveur d’air who look electric at flat tracks like kempton, but cheltenham is a totally different test
I suppose we had the same debate with detroit city a few years back
I think the difference is yanworth got a much better cruising speed than that one had
but who knows
I can see the arguments about “he’ll get swamped by something for speed up the hill” but who’s going to do it? I can’t see anything being good enough to win imperiously
last time the fav ran at the cheltenham festival did he sweep past them up the hill? no, he was firmly put in his place by Altoir and min and basically bottomed out
as it’s not a great renewal and most of the runners are rated about the same it will surely turn into a grind, in which case there’s only one scenario, yanworth wins
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