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  • #1284487
    Jasolong
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    I was worried that comment would reflect on this arguement.
    The Irish comment was from other threads.
    At least Yanworth is being considered by those yorkhill supporters here
    Completely fine with people supporting yorkhill and I would actually say yorkhill has a better chance of beating Yanworth over 2 miles that 2 miles 4f.
    There are some people who constantly just think Irish horses will win everything and will mention 4 horses in one race with potential and none are English totally blinkered. Not referring to you or zarkava on that

    #1284488
    Avatar photoZarkava
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    Ok I’m curious now. What was the comment ?

    He said MTOY was rated 9lbs higher than Consul De Thaix at this stage yet he couldn’t win the Supreme, so what chance did CDT have? As I said, a ridiculous comment. They’re different horses and running in different years against completely different horses.

    I showed that Get Me Out Of Here was rated 5lbs lower than Consul De Thaix is when he won the Betfair, yet also managed to finish 2nd in the Supreme.

    #1284490
    Jasolong
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    Ahhh ok well I must admit I never usually consider handicappers for grade 1s but I am tempted with brain power as it was so impressive to me. So from that I would have to consider CDT aswell

    #1284532
    Avatar photoZarkava
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    Petit Mouchoir supporters happy? Hmmm…did set a strong gallop but…he’s beaten Nichols Canyon twice…and that’s all he’s done…Buveur D’Air must go Champion Hurdle?

    #1284535
    Avatar photocharlie87
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    Good for those hoping Yorkhill goes Champion Hurdle IMO. PM was impressive there but I think from Wylie’s perspective he knows NC won’t reverse that form and Faugheen has had a poor prep / might not even go.

    #1284536
    Avatar photoThe Ante-Post King
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    Petit Mouchoir supporters happy? Hmmm…did set a strong gallop but…he’s beaten Nichols Canyon twice…and that’s all he’s done…Buveur D’Air must go Champion Hurdle?

    Who’s the only horse to have beaten ‘Faugheen’ Zark?

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    stilvi
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    Petit Mouchoir supporters happy? Hmmm…did set a strong gallop but…he’s beaten Nichols Canyon twice…and that’s all he’s done…Buveur D’Air must go Champion Hurdle?

    Who’s the only horse to have beaten ‘Faugheen’ Zark?

    Is that the same Faugheen who having had the race run to suit beat Arctic Fire a diminishing length in the Champion Hurdle? Hardly a benchmark of greatness.

    #1284541
    Avatar photoGladiateur
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    Buveur D’Air must go Champion Hurdle?

    Why? And please don’t give me the Yanworth stuff from earlier: all of King’s horses were badly out of form last spring and Geraghty decided to go via Cardiff.

    #1284542
    Avatar photoZarkava
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    Buveur D’Air must go Champion Hurdle?

    Why? And please don’t give me the Yanworth stuff from earlier: all of King’s horses were badly out of form last spring and Geraghty decided to go via Cardiff.

    Because he’s beaten Petit Mouchoir twice over hurdles – in the Supreme and at Aintree.

    Bit baffled as to why Faugheen solidified as favourite + Yorkhill drifted after that tbh. I’d have thought it increases the chances of Yorkhill running personally.

    #1284547
    Avatar photoCharlesOlney
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    A better performance from Petit Mouchoir than the final winning distance suggests but I can see Yanworth swinging up on his outside down the hill at Cheltenham and kicking on clear approaching the last. With all that’s going on with Faugheen, Yanworth is looking like the most likely winner.

    #1284549
    Avatar photoThe Ante-Post King
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    Petit Mouchoir supporters happy? Hmmm…did set a strong gallop but…he’s beaten Nichols Canyon twice…and that’s all he’s done…Buveur D’Air must go Champion Hurdle?

    Who’s the only horse to have beaten ‘Faugheen’ Zark?

    Is that the same Faugheen who having had the race run to suit beat Arctic Fire a diminishing length in the Champion Hurdle? Hardly a benchmark of greatness.

    I understand where you are coming from with ‘Buvair’ Zark but TAPK knows a Great horse when he sees one,my fellow was just an ugly duckling back then.Today he clocked a time that he couldn’t dream of last year plus he hurdles at speed now.None of that stop/start stuff from last season…480’s is now 4/1 B-) B-) B-) B-) B-) B-)

    #1284554
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    Because he’s beaten Petit Mouchoir twice over hurdles – in the Supreme and at Aintree.

    True; however, he’s been campaigned eexclusively over fences this season and, with Altior being considered for the Champion Chase and Min sidelined, he’d go to the Arkle with a very good shout. I don’t see Henderson switching him back to hurdles at this point.

    #1284555
    Avatar photoZarkava
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    I understand where you are coming from with ‘Buvair’ Zark but TAPK knows a Great horse when he sees one,my fellow was just an ugly duckling back then.Today he clocked a time that he couldn’t dream of last year plus he hurdles at speed now.None of that stop/start stuff from last season…480’s is now 4/1

    Buveur D’Air also a different animal to last year. You see the way he destroyed Cloudy Dream on his debut? That was ridiculous. Not to mention he completely blew Wait For Me away on his hurdling debut. Very very exciting horse.

    How much you got at 480?

    #1284558
    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    betvictor still 66/1 on Footpad
    He’s one that could take advantage if they go overly strong, even if only running past beaten horse and battling for a place.

    Blackbeard to conquer the World

    #1284559
    Avatar photoThe Ante-Post King
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    How much you got at 480?

    25p…But I’ve got 460,440 and 410 too to way more pennies… :yahoo:

    #1284568
    Avatar photoZarkava
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    Lol ok, so you got him for about £2k then. Nice early spot, VtC also has close to 500s.

    Very surprised to see Yorkhill available at 20s-25s after the Irish Champion. Baffled as to why people would lay him at that after NC got beaten for Wylie. Took the opportunity to get him onside. Ivanovich G was also there at 110s and 130s, which I also duly took. Need to get him onside wherever he runs.

    Write L’Ami Serge off at your peril ;)

    #1284570
    Avatar photoThe Ante-Post King
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    Lol ok, so you got him for about £2k then. Nice early spot, VtC also has close to 500s.

    Well isn’t that a coincidence? B-)

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