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November 16, 2017 at 11:05 #1326940
So Defi Du Seuil misses the Greatwood having been the only horse in the race to carry my money. Nevermind…..
I backed White Moon for the Ballymore trial tomorrow after Tizzard named it as his target. Like the above there was obviously a change of heart and so he went Exeter instead and bolted up. Nevermind…..
Having backed Cloudy Dream for this, he was infamously declared in the wrong race when here was the target. Nevermind…..
Now this morning, my main fancy for this I’ve been slapping for months, Gold Present, doesn’t make the final field. Ne…..
If there is a god Starchitect wins this for me with my last roll of the dice!
November 16, 2017 at 11:48 #1326945I feel your pain Bozlike, so disappointed here.
November 16, 2017 at 12:07 #1326949Nicky Henderson has two runners, Theinval and Days of Heaven, with his presumably first-string jockey, Nico, riding the latter.
November 16, 2017 at 12:11 #1326950I have two dogs in the fight and am happy with my two but feel compelled to express an opinion about Kylemore Lough.
The horses has run about five or six times in double figure fields and only once won!! And that was a maiden hurdle at Warwick!! Personally I think it is one of these small field bullies that hasn’t the savvy to win a big field handicap!! I know it has ran in some classy races but quite often that class doesn’t transfer to big handicaps.
It is just my opinion but it gives me valid reasons for not wanting to back KL and good reasons to lay it too becasue IMO it is underpriced!!
Good Luck Guys
November 16, 2017 at 15:57 #1326981No Aso and to be honest I have no idea who’s going to win this race. I lean to agree with you Raymo about Kylemore Lough though.
November 16, 2017 at 20:18 #1327013I didn’t back it but there’s no excuse. “ People make mistakes “might be true in itself but it’s simply a platitude in cases like this.
These was one a couple of seasons ago where they forgot to enter the horse at all.
You are a hard man! The odd mistake will be made. I expect Malcolm Jefferson’s daughter will be forgiven, especially as there IS a genuine excuse in this case. To schedule consecutive races with very similar titles is poor by the sponsor. It has scored an own goal by denying the public the best race possible hence the rapid action to refund ante post backers of Cloudy Dream, damage limitation. To avoid a repeat the contest should be named the BetVictor Mackeson Gold Cup!!!!! :)
November 16, 2017 at 22:39 #1327024Taken me a while to pick out what i like in the race, have settled on two for now
Aqua dude at 25/1 e/w
Aso 20/1 e/wAnnoying about aso but have long felt that aqua dude is capable of a mid 140s mark, so i feel he has a bit of juice in the prices even at 16s
Have went in again e/w at 16s aswell as the 25/1 e/w
November 16, 2017 at 22:50 #1327026I agree
November 17, 2017 at 21:34 #1327185After my disappointment with my early picks, I went in again, but for less money.
I took that 20-1 each way for Aqua Dude especially as Skybet are paying 6 places and I have taken 9-1 for Le Prezien with same firm win only.
November 17, 2017 at 22:15 #1327192Taken 28/1 about Double Treasure each-way 5 places with Paddy Power. It seems a tad too big to me for a trainer I really like and an improving young horse who doesn’t seem to know the meaning of the word ceiling.
November 17, 2017 at 22:55 #1327201Nobody think Guitar Pete has a squeak tomorrow at 16s? Finally got his head in front again at Wetherby a few weeks back and considering his peak rating was 146 he may have a bit in hand off 134 if he’s back on an upward curve.
November 18, 2017 at 01:02 #1327249Not without a chance Tunstall, and still a fair looking price.
Good luck with him, and welcome to TRF.
November 18, 2017 at 01:45 #1327257Nobody think Guitar Pete has a squeak tomorrow at 16s? Finally got his head in front again at Wetherby a few weeks back and considering his peak rating was 146 he may have a bit in hand off 134 if he’s back on an upward curve.
Yes Tunstall, I do. That 146 was as a hurdler. But the fact he’s in the past been effective over hurdles on a mark at least 10 lbs above his current chase mark… Got to be encouraging with Nicky Richards managing to get him – as you say – on an upward curve over fences. Much more consistent for Nicky and may be he’s found the secret to him (not won very often or run well very often for other trainers in recent years).
20/1 looks well worth an investment.
My main investments are:
Kylemore Lough @ 7/1
La Prezien @ 9/1
Guitar Pete 21/1
Aqua Dude 20/1Value Is EverythingNovember 18, 2017 at 02:00 #1327260Taken 28/1 about Double Treasure each-way 5 places with Paddy Power. It seems a tad too big to me for a trainer I really like and an improving young horse who doesn’t seem to know the meaning of the word ceiling.
Couldn’t agree more Charles, I thought I was doing well taking him at 20s the best part
of a week ago. I’ve had another nibble at 28s with Paddy Power, he’s got to be the value
e/w 5 places.November 18, 2017 at 09:10 #1327295have added plaisir d amour e w 25/1- although only a 5 y o has had 17 career starts,first 11 in france and has winning course form. looks to have scope for improvement and seems significant venetia is taking in such a competitive race first time out
November 18, 2017 at 09:56 #1327308Kylemore Lough and Ballyalton win-only
Viconte du Noyer E/Ware my bets thus far, may add one more EW poke
November 18, 2017 at 10:48 #1327321I really fancy Kylemore Lough in this one. I also quite like Double Treasure.
Romain De Senam and Plaisir D’amour with small stakes as well.
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