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November 28, 2016 at 19:37 #1274928
Entries out for this……
http://www.racingpost.com/horses2/cards/card.sd?race_id=662158&r_date=2016-12-03#raceTabs=lc_
Not a race I’ve had much joy in, with Little Josh being my only winner as far as I remember.
Still like to have a go though, and I’ve bet a couple of them, both horses I’ve tended to follow over a cliff.
Seefood – If he was mine, I’m not sure he’d be going near these fences, but he was bought last year with The National in mind, and a win here might be the best way to get a win under his belt to get him there, as he’s way short of the mark required at the moment. He was decent as a hurdler, in fact I thought he’d end up better, but having looked as if he was regressing for a while, the switch to Dr Newlands yard has seen some shoots of recovery. Tidy enough winner last time, and though he could easily be an early casualty, the ability is there if he stands up.
Vintage Vinnie – Up in the front rank in The BetVictor, until 3 out, when he emptied quickly, taking a few quid of mine with him. He did start the season well though, and I’m happy to keep him on side at 25’s. Very much like Seefood, he might be a bit scary round there, but if he can stay on his feet, he could nick a place, and was happy with the 25’s.
Given that they both have doubts over their jumping, they won’t be my biggest bets of the season, and I was more tempted by the prices. If I do have a bigger bet in this race, it’ll be once the final decs are known, though if nothing jumps off the page, I might just leave it be.
As De Mee is certainly an interesting runner at 12’s, while the likes of Bennys Mist, Seventh Sky, and Ruben Cotter are all safe enough conveyances around here. Slight issue with the latter two holding an entry in The Becher, but Ruben does look big at 20’s, as does Rathlin at the 16’s. Rathlin was poor the last time, but I’m willing to forgive him his unseat in this years Topham, and he looks the type who could bounce back here.
Doesn’t look the strongest renewal, and certainly not one to go mad in, so I’ll happily stick with Seefood 16’s and Vintage Vinnie 25’s for now.
November 28, 2016 at 20:41 #1274938Staying loyal to my old mate Bennys Mist. As you say he’s always a pretty safe bet round this course.
I’d waited years to see Astracad tackle these fences and I’m willing to forgive his performance in the Topham where conditions didn’t suit. He hasn’t gone up too much for his victory at Cheltenham and I’m very tempted to have a good go with him. Only apprehension is he’s been entered so many times but taken out late, so might wait until he is officially declared. His trainer knows a thing or two about sending a winner here.
Vintage Vinnie and Troika Steps also garner interest should they line up…
November 29, 2016 at 09:22 #1274962Peter, I’ve bet Astracad so many times over the years, I think I have a share in him. Missed him the last time as he was too short for me, but at least you’ll know he’s in good form, though I’m just worried that that’s him had his win for the year lol.
November 29, 2016 at 16:37 #1274997Valadom in this @ 12-1. He’s pretty certain to line up, in some places he’s only 8-1. A cheeky little £20 win double on Valadom in the Sefton and Viconte Du Noyer @ 12-1 in the Beecher, pays £3,380. Merry Christmas in November.
November 29, 2016 at 20:57 #1275021I’ve opted for Valadom in this as well.
November 30, 2016 at 00:12 #1275041I have backed two in this Le Vaticane at 10/1 and Beeves at 25/1.
I think this may have been Le Vaticane’s target since April!!
And Beeves looks like he may have been got ready for this race. I hope he runs in this and not the Becher!!
November 30, 2016 at 14:38 #1275083With you Raymo on LA VACITAINE 10/1 a fast pace around here be perfect for him
November 30, 2016 at 15:00 #1275086I have backed Henryville at 20/1 EW earlier in the week. Hes on a fair mark of 141. Hoping for a big run
December 2, 2016 at 14:14 #1275305I’ve opted for Valadom in this as well.
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December 2, 2016 at 14:20 #1275307I’ve opted for Valadom in this as well.
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December 2, 2016 at 22:27 #1275372Beeves runs in the Becher so had to back another one and plumped for ASTRACAD who certainly has his own ideas about the game but is a big enough price to be worth a gamble!
December 2, 2016 at 22:34 #1275375Have just taken 50s Rouge Et Blanc who has some experience here and has twice won off a longish break and with lousy form figures
One of the advantages of living close to the Irish Sea is that if As De Mee wins it will take me just two minutes to go and jump in it
December 2, 2016 at 23:38 #1275395As De Mee came out 10 lengths clear on my interpretation! Also considered Henryville e/w but his hold up style in the conditions will probably preclude him winning.
December 3, 2016 at 02:32 #1275421As De Mee is well handicapped, but has a poor win/run ratio. La Vaticane doesn’t seem very moral either. Echo GM about Henryville, will need them to fold in front. Rebecca doesn’t seem in as good form so Vintage Vinnie is kicked in to touch. Astracad seems to reserve his best for Cheltenham. One I’ll be keeping an eye out for in the market is Rouge Et Blanc, can see why Joe likes him at a big price; but has has physical issues. Might go in if beginning to shorten.
My three main bets are: Valadom, Seefood and Troika Steppes.
Saved on Bennys Mist and Seventh Sky.
Latter pair would’ve been main bets but not sure it’ll be soft enough for the one/two from last year. Both genuine and good jumpers so couldn’t leave them out. Jumping might be Seefood’s downfall, but has everything else going for him, going, distance, improving, in form and stable in good form too. If Valadom or Troika Steppes get free on the front end could take some catching on that ground. Hopefully they won’t take each other on. Prefer prominent runners on this course.Value Is EverythingDecember 3, 2016 at 08:02 #1275434Agree with a lot you say Ginger. Poor run last time by Vintage Vinnie too and Astracad needs genuine Good. Not the strongest Class 2 but worry about Class for Seefood & Troika Steppes, also the latter’s jumping too and Troika may need more of a test/further as may Valadom!
December 3, 2016 at 09:02 #1275442The cynic in me is asking which two will be withdrawn to make it e/w 3 places.
December 3, 2016 at 11:21 #1275481Bet Witnessincourt here E/W 33’s 6 Places Sky
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