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    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    And, of course, the biggest question of all, one that never comes into play on the Flat, what will happen at the fences?

    Yep, that’s right Joe.
    We never have the question on the Flat about how many horses will die because of obsticles put in their way. :yes:

    That’s the thing we never bring up in a Jumps V Flat debate.

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    #1223018
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    Coneygree won’t be winning, he’s out of the race :-(

    Lee

    #1223019
    Avatar photoZamorston
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    Yeah, real shame…takes so much out of the race. Knowing how much they wanted this race you’ve got to respect them for taking no chances…could be a blessing in disguise for my King George ante post wagers!

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    Didn’t back him, but sorry to see Coneygree out. Would love to have watched him try to defy that weight from the front.

    And sadly, Bobs Worth, rather than feeling like it’s Christmas with 10.7, will think it’s just his birthday :)

    Ned Stark, who had 9.8, might well come into it now

    #1223026
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    Theatre Guide will benefit most and was a good 3rd in the race two years back. 33/1 available now.

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    Ginger, if there were no obstacles in their way, there wouldn’t be a Jumps V Flat debate

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    This looks a more open affair than meets the eye. This Coneygree is some animal and if at his best he’ll take some beating, but I’m willing to take him on, as well as the Nichols horse, who I simply don’t think is a good enough jumper to win a race like the hennessy.

    Houblon Des Obeaux looks to have conditions to suit and a weight that surely puts him right in the thick of things.

    Bobs Worth is certainly a very tempting proposition, however I’ve never really been overly anamoured with him. I’ll order in a fresh batch of humble pie, in the event he proves me wrong… again.

    Splash of Ginge is a favourite of mine, however may be a little out of his depth in this company and I’m not quite convinced he’ll see out the trip at this stage in his career.

    Two horses at the bottom of the weights I’ll definitely be keeping an eye on are Fingal Bay and Theatre Guide. The former was disappointing in this last year, however he comes back with a good run under his beer, has less weight on his back and represents a stable in flying form. This race has always been of interest when talking about Theatre Guide. Ticks all the right boxes and again the stable is bringing in the winners.

    I see Splash of Ginge as a future Grand National winner, so whatever he does now is a bonus. He could run well at a price but not for win purposes.

    Agree re. Theatre Guide, bit of a forgotten horse, ran a blinder two years ago and looks well handicapped. Fingal Bay is an enigma but could easily go close. Think all roads lead to the festival again with him though.

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    As already stated I am on If In Doubt but I have just been and had a couple of quid each way on two outsiders Fox Appeal at 50/1 and First Lieutenant at 25/1.
    The last named is a huge price if finding his old form and Fox Appeal is pretty consistent and could run a race at a big price.

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    Raymo61, I’ve been watching Fox Appeal for a while, and I think he has an engine, but he’s one of the untidiest jumpers I’ve ever seen. If, for once he could meet 99% of the fences right, he could run a big race. I’ll probably have a couple of quid on just in case.

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    This race suits Houblon Des Obeaux,so I will try him EW.

    If you go to back a certainty always buy a return ticket.

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    Houblon Des Obeaux and Fingal Bay both look ok at the prices.
    A bit more rain wouldn’t go amiss and will help their causes.

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    I am not convinced by the Bobs Worth comeback race, the Ferguson horses were beat at half way (too bad to be true) and Simonsig pulled far too hard and was running on empty from two out. Fingal Bay and Smad Place don’t appear to be out and out stayers and I was happier with Saphir with Coneygree in the race, to say I am confused is an understatement. The Druids Nephew at 16’s looks a reasonable each way choice although I have 5’s about Saphir from a few weeks back.

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    Trainer says TDN won’t run if there’s significant rain overnight

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    I’ve always had a fondness for Smad Place so I’ll stick with him for this. He finished 20 lengths behind last year but had no prep run.
    He comes into this race off of an encouraging victory over 2m4f and won’t mind testing ground. Runs off a lower mark than last year as well so its enough for me to back my local trainer.

    Double figures would have been nice for some each way value but 7’s is fine.

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    He’s a lovely, genuine horse who deserves a big win like this.

    #1223572
    wasps41
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    Narrowed down to
    Smad Place
    Fingal Bay
    HOD
    Young Master

    :unsure:

    #1223606
    Avatar photoThe Ante-Post King
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    Well I’ve got to today with a single horse bet in this years great race and even with top weight I cant see Saphir du rheu failing on the class front,if he is the Gold cup horse I think he is he has to be within 5 lengths of the blots on the handicap.’Ned Stark’ could be one! My old pal First Lieutenant runs again and I just cant not back him,he’s cost me plenty in the past but I’m a succour for loyalty.Obviously wherever Mouses horse finishes that bloody ‘Bobs worth’ will be 2 lengths in front! :unsure:

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