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    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    Slightly different test now with the dramatic softening of the fences, but still looks a decent enough list of entries………at this stage.

    Doubt we’ll get as popular a winner as Hello Bud last year, but a few old favourites in there anyway. NTD has old Baby Run entered, it would be some feat to get him back, and after Bud last year, well, you never know.

    The Wylie pair, Prince De Beauchene, and On His Own are at the head of the market, but both would have to be bet with caution, as seem to be entered for multiple races these days. PDB was a wee bit disappointing at Down Royal I thought. I’ve long been of the opinion he’s slightly under-rated, and thought he would have went closer at a price. Although On His Own has failed to complete on 2 previous attempts over the fences, I tend not to look too much into previous performances over the fences, more looking at how they enjoyed the experience, and he was lobbing away nicely in The 2012 National. He seems to run over hurdles more than fences these days, and there’s just the suspicion that Mullins is very conscious of when he unleashes him back over fences. Their participation could, ultimately, depend on whether or not Aintree in April is on the agenda. If either line up a week on Saturday, they would be hard to ignore. Mullins has few other entered, and it’s a minefield trying to second guess him. If Vesper Bell, made the journey, I’d favour him over the Wylie pair.

    Triolo D’Alene was a very impressive winner of The Topham, and at this stage, he’s probably a very likely runner, he’s shaped, to me anyway, as if the continued step up in trip is exactly what he’s looking for, and the obvious plan here would be to use this as a “sighter” for The National itself. Followed up his Topham win with another victory in a competitive enough affair at Huntingdon, and that, along with his perfectly acceptable comeback at Ascot, makes him of serious interest.

    David Pipe has a good few entered, and I’d think Master Overseer would be considered the most likely to land this, and he’s worth a second look for sure. He’s got new inmates in Bostons Angel, and Ace High entered too, and as the season progresses, would be interesting to see what kind of improvement he can get out of them. Ace High was an eyecatching winner at Chepstow last season, and was very much one for the notebook, however injury intervened, and he looked a light of his former self. A lot more encouragement to be taken from his run at Haydock on Saturday, and if over his exertions, could run a big race. Bostons Angel, the 2011 RSA winner has somewhat lost his way, not winning since, and has thrown in some stinkers, he’s also changed owners now, but very much like Ace High, would be no surprise to see Pipe get them on a nice mark for later in the season. Definitely worth considering for targets later in the season. He’s also got Swing Bill entered in new ownership, running in the colours of Halewood International, previously having been owned by the late David Johnson. John Halewood, and David Johnson, both former Grand National winning owners, and both sadly no longer with us, have been great supporters of Aintree, and he would be a very fitting winner. Sentimentality aside, he’d actually be my main fancy anyway. Like Hello Bud, he’s getting into the veteran stages now, but landed a decent prize last year, and has showed he’s still got a bit of life in him. His running in the 2011 Becher aside, he normally runs with credit around here, and at 25’s, I actually give him a serious chance. Pipe also has my old friend/nemesis Junior entered. I’ve rated this horse (too) highly in the past, and was desperate to see him take his chance in the 2012 Gold Cup, however not be, and they took the ill-advised Aintree route. He was always likely to struggle, as he’s not the most fluent of jumpers, and was no surprise to see him get no further than the 2nd. The softening of the fences could make all the difference, and as I bet him every time he runs, I’ll have to have a pound on him :roll:

    Join Together ran a screamer in this last year, and deservedly shot to the head of the antepost markets for The National, but he’s completely lost the plot since then. Would be great to see him comeback in this, but I’ll be avoiding him for the timebeing.

    I bet Walkon for The 2012 Scottish National, but his stamina, I suppose expectedly, gave way. I still think he remains still relatively well treated, and not totally out of the question he can figure over a trip like this. You’d have to ignore his comeback over The Mildmay fences at Aintree, where he didn’t jump at all well, but based on his runner up spot in The Topham, he might just surprise a few.

    JP has the usual multiple entries, but for once, only really like the look of one of them. Storm Survivor looked pretty promising during the summer months, and may just be the type to come to prominence in some of the big handicap chases this season. I thought of him as more of a Welsh National type, but if he lined up here, I wouldn’t be discounting him. Of the others, Wyck Hill has had his problems since being bought last year, and on recent runs, I’d have to swerve him. Though to be fair, he did beat one of my favourites, in Katenko, before injury intervened. If back to his best, then he could make me look a bit stupid :wink: The same applies to Lost Glory. I had a few quid on him for The National last season, but in all honesty he seemed to hate it. On that showing, not for me. Colbert Station ran a lot better than I expected in The Troytown yesterday, but this will surely come too soon after that effort.

    One who did run a blinder in The National was Soll, finishing seventh. He was given a stange prep for Aintree, with a slog a few weeks before, and if not for feeling those exertions, could have went even closer. Remains a significant horse for The National later in the season…….if given the right build up.

    Ikorodu Road is bit of a monkey, but he’s another I bet regularly. Landed a nice wee touch with him a few weeks back, making up for a string of losses for me. Was amazed they didn’t target The National for him last season, and he looks the type who’ll either love it or hate it. I tend to think he’ll enjoy it, and there will be worse outsiders…….I think.

    Another who won last time out is Midnight Appeal. Battled really well to land the spoils at Bangor a fortnight ago, and if over that, I’d give him a serious chance. Also holds an entry for The Welsh National, which may, just, suit him better. Lots to like about his last run, and worth considering for those who like a price.

    Both Planet Of Sound, and Across The Bay have led the field a merry dance in The National, before running out of steam over the “4 and a half miles”. Across The Bay had a spin over hurdles on his debut, and that type of prep is always worth noting. Planet of Sound would have to overcome a bit of a disappointing season in 2012-13, but potentially (the soon to be retired Imperial Commander aside), the classiest horse in the list of entries.

    Gullible Gordon, and Big Fella Thanks are standing dishes round here, and although they both have very few blemishes to their names at Aintree, they seem to always find the knack of finding a couple too good. Should at least give supporters a run for their money though.

    I’ve a small hunch for Mr Moonshine, from the Sue Smith stable. Ran adequately in The National, but seemed to find things happening too quickly for him. The trainer’s no stranger to a surprise winner, and with a run under his belt already this season, I’m definitely going to take a bit of the 33’s on offer. No doubt he’ll go on to start at 40’s :(

    Other of note include the very decent Sizing Australia, Any Currency who ran his best race for a while at Cheltenham last week, Ballyoliver from the Venetia Williams Stable, and Roberto Goldback. Venetia is excellent at springing shocks in these big handicaps, and although Ballyoliver was a shade disappointing last time at Wincanton, I still think he’s got a good prize in him. Roberto is bound to be popular, but there is just the suspicion, that he didn’t enjoy the experience in The National, though it’s worth bearing in mind that he’s slipping nicely down the weights (again :wink: )

    Swing Bill for me at the moment then, just ahead of Mr Moonshine

    There, that’s a huge chunk of the entries mentioned, what odds something else lands it :|

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    Awesome write up! And terrific thread making!

    As soon as the entries came out, i got giddy at the prospect of seeing Roberto Goldback (my main hope for

    last

    seasons Nationa) and Bostons Angel (my main hope for

    this

    seasons National) lining up!

    Roberto Goldback, like you said is nicely slipping down the handicap, but i just wonder whether or not he enjoyed the experience in April. I remember thinking at the time he was not enjoying himself, but he had a lot more weight than he deserved on his back that day. I’ve little doubt i’ll empty half my pockets on him…

    I’ll empty the other half on Bostons Angel :lol: Pipe is in white hot form and although he hasn’t won since the RSA in 2011, he has run some screamers in Cross Country races and i’ve little doubt Aintree will suit him. I really fancied him for last seasons National, but for some reason or other he didn’t go. With Robbie Power on his back, i could have seen him going very close. Nevertheless it seems he’s getting a chance to see how he likes things on the 6th.

    The entries looks almost as good as the Hennessy! :D Hoping for a nice big field. The added prize money should see to that.

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    I’m sure Sue Smith said that Mr Moonshine was really enjoying himself in the National. She definately said something because I have his name written on a pice of paper which is blu tacked above the computer. The last horses name that was stuck there was Snoopy Loopey

    . Make of that what you will [darned if I can :? ]

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    Thanks Peter, appreciated, hope a load of them just stand their ground now…..fingers crossed.

    moe, I hope you’re right……very encouraging about Moonshine.

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    Baby Run for me. 13 years old, Off the track for 1000 days, a NTD speciality! He has one of the best wins to runs ratio I’ve seen for a horse that’s been around a while, 41%. I can see him running a big race if he runs. Junior would be another for the shortlist at this early stage, ran well behind Triolo D’Alene in the Spring, think he deserves another chance after his early fall in the National a few years ago.

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    Excellent write up VtC!

    I agree regarding Planet of Sound, I actually backed him for last years National sadly he didn’t run. However the way he travelled in the National before distinctly stuck in my memory. The shorter Becher Chase trip should suit him.

    I’d like to see Big Fella Thanks or Imperial Commander win, The Big Fella in particular would be a fitting winner after his placed efforts over the course.

    I like Soll but think he may go better in the National.

    Is winning this a disadvantage in terms of the National? I maybe wrong but was Earth Summit the last to do the Becher / National double in the same year? I remember Clan Royal winning but think he won the National the year after.

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    Excellent write up VtC!

    I agree regarding Planet of Sound, I actually backed him for last years National sadly he didn’t run. However the way he travelled in the National before distinctly stuck in my memory. The shorter Becher Chase trip should suit him.

    I’d like to see Big Fella Thanks or Imperial Commander win, The Big Fella in particular would be a fitting winner after his placed efforts over the course.

    I like Soll but think he may go better in the National.

    Is winning this a disadvantage in terms of the National? I maybe wrong but was Earth Summit the last to do the Becher / National double in the same year? I remember Clan Royal winning but think he won the National the year after.

    Earth Summit won the National (April) before winning the Becher (November) in 1998, so there was no real effect.

    The only others to do the double did so but seasons apart.

    Amberleigh House – 2001 Becher / 2004 National
    Silver Birch – 2004 Becher / 2007 National

    Clan Royal did indeed win the Becher in ’03, but was an ‘unlucky’ runner up in that seasons National.

    Smith isn’t very kind to Becher winners. He seems to seriously notch them up in the National weights, so a double isn’t very likely unless they are either rather low in the handicap before winning the Becher or a very good horse. Eurotrek, Mr Pointment, Black Apalachi, Vic Venturi in recent years were pretty harshly ‘punished’ for winning this race.

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    Excellent write up VtC!

    I agree regarding Planet of Sound, I actually backed him for last years National sadly he didn’t run. However the way he travelled in the National before distinctly stuck in my memory. The shorter Becher Chase trip should suit him.

    I’d like to see Big Fella Thanks or Imperial Commander win, The Big Fella in particular would be a fitting winner after his placed efforts over the course.

    I like Soll but think he may go better in the National.

    Is winning this a disadvantage in terms of the National? I maybe wrong but was Earth Summit the last to do the Becher / National double in the same year? I remember Clan Royal winning but think he won the National the year after.

    Don’t think Clan Royal has won the National, he was 2nd to Amberleigh House in 2004 and won the Becher in 2003.

    Planet of Sound does possess a touch of class but needs good ground, he’s a bit too inconsistent these days for me.

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    Ahh of course your both right fellas! Not sure were my head is at tonight. Clan Royal certainly deserved a National I think it was Hedgehunter’s year were he looked the likely winner before being carried out!

    Mind you he was lucky to win the Becher beating Amberleigh by a nose, I remember Ginger cursing his luck as they didn’t jump the Chair! He was convinced Amberleigh would have won had they jumped it!

    I thought as much regarding Smith and the weights, shame really would be nice to see the double done in the same season!

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    not decided on bet yet, but probrably go for an outsider this year

    vf

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    28 still remain at the 5 day period. No shocking withdrawals, so still looking like an awesome renewal. Hope plenty of them show up! Haven’t had a 20+ field since 2006.

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    Rose Of The Moon for me at the moment.

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    Rose Of The Moon for me at the moment.

    Would need it to be a bog to win.

    Baby Run is my sentimental choice, Planet of Sound my main hope with the ground on the good side.

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    24 runners set to line up! A fantastic turnout given some of the more depressing numbers we’ve had in the past. Gonna be a very nice challenge sorting through this :D

    Junior

    – An early faller in the 2012 National, but the fences are completely different now. Tends to make mistakes and lacks any appealing form. Lumbering top weight won’t help either.

    Walkon

    – Jumped for fun round here in April and Alan King is looking for a crack at the National in the future. Shapes as if a step up in trip should suit. A classy sort, but i’d be rather apprehensive about his weight.

    Big Fella Thanks

    – Aintree specialist who went very close in this last year. This years race seems far more competitive and was well beaten last time out, but his affinity for this place could prove useful.

    Roberto Goldback

    – Slipped down to a winnable rating which showed with his recent good run at Ascot, finishing just a nose behind subsequent Hennessy winner. Rider was taking 5lbs off that day and he didn’t have the best of runs in the National. My sentimental pick.

    Across The Bay

    – Won a handicap hurdle before running a screamer in the National, leading for most of the way. Tired badly and finished 14th, but his trainer has targeted this race.

    Join Together

    – A desperately close runner up in this last year, but has gone on to disappoint since. Is bred to stay and run well here (sire responsible for 2 National winners and 3 consecutive Becher winners). Has something to prove now.

    On His Own

    – Fallen twice at this course when fancied both times. Been running predominantly in hurdles and has run in only 3 chases since winning the Thyestes, falling twice and beaten 12 lengths over this distance in a handicap chase. Gone up 1lb for that effort. Current market leader.

    Planet Of Sound

    – Won a Punchestown Gold Cup and placed in a Hennessy, however there is still doubts how far he can stay. Led for a long way in the 2012 National before tiring and has disappointed since. Has slid down the handicap as a consequence. Could be intriguing.

    Bostons Angel

    – Former RSA hero having his first run for the white hot David Pipe. Tom Scudamore has opted for this one over the trainers other two runners. Has run big races in cross countries and is running off a very appealing mark. My personal pick of the pack.

    Vesper Bell

    – Mullins sends this one over with very little experience to his name (has only run in 5 chases) but has shown some good staying potential. Well, well beaten in the Kim Muir but just narrowly denied over 3, 6 at Punchestown last time. Don’t know very much else.

    Wyck Hill

    – Was very well fancied for the National before disappointing in the Racing Plus. Finished 3 lengths infront of On His Own at Punchestown over 3, 1 carrying 2lbs less. Never looked like winning last time out and i struggle to see much appeal.

    Swing Bill

    – Another Aintree specialist who ran a much better race in the National than expected, finishing 6th. Has dropped 2lbs since. Be a real treat to see this one come good on the day.

    Ikorodu Road

    – Former Grimthorp winner who disappointed after, until winning last time out, off a similar mark that saw him win two on the trot a couple seasons back. Gone back up 7lbs and has struggled with this mark in the past and i can’t see him improving.

    Sizing Australia

    – Another cross country regular (won at the Cheltenham Festival in 2011) and has won over shorter trips recently, so shouldn’t have any issues with the pace. Could be quite dangerous if he takes to the track. 33/1 is a ridiculous price, in my opinion.

    Baby Run

    – Winner over these fences when they were… actual fences, so no worries in that department. Hasn’t run since April 2011 and is now 13 (though that never stopped Hello Bud). Twisters (both trainer and jockey) has a good record in this race, but this looks a very tough task now.

    Pineau De Re

    – Very unfamiliar with this one. Was a very easy winner over 3, 4 in April, but doesn’t look to have any real claim at this level.

    Rose Of The Moon

    – Won a couple novice chases last season, but never looked like winning last two runs. Unsure how good he could be, so best watched.

    Chance Du Roy

    – Has run some woeful races this coming runner up in the 2012 Topham. Fell in the Sefton later that year and doesn’t look like a real danger. Worth noting he’s dropped down the weights for his bad runs recently.

    Gullible Gordon

    – Knows his way round here, however has never looked too dangerous in any of his attempts over these fences. Had a very busy summer and won two on the trot over similar distance to this. Probably not good enough to figure.

    Chartreux

    – Another i’m unfamiliar with and has unspectacular form so will be bypassing.

    Storm Survivor

    – Carries JP’s second set of colours for Paddy Power winning combination. 28/1 winner of the Summer National at Uttoxeter and ran close at Chepstow last time out off the same mark he runs off in this. 25/1 is very generous and should be respected.

    Mr Moonshine

    – National winning trainer is used to sending out big price winners, but can’t see this being another. Doesn’t look like he’ll stay.

    Bennys Mist

    – Won a 3 runner novice handicap chase and a 2, 7 handicap of far less quality before pulling up in the Topham in April and can make mistakes. Avoiding.

    Ballybough Gorta

    – Won two staying handicap chases at Cartmel, but takes a big step up in class in this. Could be well outclassed.

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    Think this made is absolutely taylor made for Vesper Bell. So, so well handicapped.

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    Vesper Bell also needs the heavens to open to stand a chance. Either of my two will win.

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    I think Across the Bay looks to have a decent chance here, he obviously takes to Aintree well and the Bet 365 looks to have been a good prep race for this.

    The 12/1 on offer is a decent bet, particularly safe I reckon if taking the e/w 1st 5 with a few bookmakers, although I’d need the odds a good bit longer for e/w so I’ll chance a death or glory bid.

    I would however consider an e/w on Sizing Australia at 33/1, if he takes to Aintree he should not be be anywhere near that price.

    A cracking race.
    Good luck

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