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I didn’t see Last Instalment’s race, but I listened to it on William Hill Radio, and they were well impressed with the horse, but did go on to say later how important cut in the ground was for him.
He’s a beast that one Mo I’d be thinking future Grand National for him he’s probably not quite fast enough for Cheltenham.
All of you Long Run knockers are talking BOLLOCKS.
Fact: He won last years Gold Cup and he was still 5 years old.
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Fact: On Official ratings he is the 5th best Gold Cup winner in history and that was at age 5.Fact: He has never fallen or even looked like falling.
The race is a 2 horse race and Kauto will not have enough petrol to get up the hill.
that irish hennessy must have been one of the worst run in recent years, if not the worst. forget about that race, and although i’m still very anti-long run and kauto, I think it would be a mistake to jump on the quel esprit bandwagon.
All of you Long Run knockers are talking BOLLOCKS.
I’m a knocker and I’m a backer. What am I talking?
Fact: He won last years Gold Cup and he was still 5 years old.
Fact: He was 6
Fact: On Official ratings he is the 5th best Gold Cup winner in history and that was at age 5.
I will happily use RPRs when looking at novice hurdles and novice chases at the Cheltenham Festival and the Classics, but using ORs is an extremely weak argument. I mean seriously, didn’t the same guy manage to give Brampour an equal rating to Brave Inca’s Champion Hurdle victory for finishing 3rd in the Bula?
And it was aged 6.
Zarkava you are talking BOLLOCKS.
Long Run was 5 when he won last years Gold Cup, why don’t you check when his birthday was? He will be 6 when he attempts the double in a few weeks.
You make yourself sound like a muppet when you say your a knocker and a backer (why are you backing it if you don’t rate it?)
Perhaps you could tell the viewers which Cheltenham Gold cup winners were rated higher than Long Run?
Winning the gold cup at 6 is stil a massive achievement!!
His jumping has cost him dearly in the past but that was when he was 5/6. His jumping has been slow in his two runs this year but he hasn’t looked like falling and he has been there when it matters, we all know he will murder kauto on the run in and it is just a case of him not spending too much energy on the slow jumps.
I wouldn’t usually go for slow jumpers but he has proven he can make a few poor jumps and still motor on.
I just don’t see where the weird al hope comes from. Won a rubbish charlie hall. Never gets a look in in big fields, he is too light framed for the hustle bustle.
I hasten to add that i find myself more and more in favour of long run because just about every other horse in the race looks too slow. I hope he wins and then I look forward to taking him on next year.
I still don’t understand why waley cohen is allowed to ride what with his ban and the amateur race on gold cup day. Baffled!!!
Long Run was born on 5th April 2005, therefore he is still only aged 6 and will be 6 when he runs in the Gold Cup.
Still there are people on here saying Kauto Star has no pace, won’t get up the hill, Cheltenham not his track etc etc etc….
Didn’t you all say this before the Haydock race, didn’t you all say this before the king George? Does winning two Gold cups mean he doesn’t act round Cheltenham? Does winning a fifth King George say he has no gears or acceleration left?
Clearly the horse was not right at all last season and that’s when Long Run burst on the scene and beat him both times. At the age of 12, Kauto Star IS right this season and beaten Long Run fair and square both times. If this was two seasons ago Kauto Star would be a 1/2 chance for the Gold Cup as he has beaten everything in front of him twice already, regardless of what jockey is on board or whether or not Long Run can jump properly. If they can’t jump they shouldn’t be chasing should they? I just actually think that when Kauto Star is right, obviously age is an issue, but when he’s right, he’s still the best there is and Ruby is the best man to have on board. The records prove this to be the case. I hope Long Run turns out to be as good as everyone thinks he is, but why after two races this season he’s proved everyone wrong, do they think Kauto Star is not up to winning a third Gold Cup? Apart from Long Run, what else can possibly beat it on the form he has been in this season??
If Nicholls says he is top form, he has to be taken seriously does he not? I’ve been one of the many knockers of the great horse and have been looking for something to come out of the woodwork to lay down a claim above the front two in the betting, but surely Kauto Star should be going off favourite for this race on on all known form this season?Cheltenham simply isn’t his best course.
12 year olds DON’T win the gold cup.
He had the perfect tactical ride latest. He WILL NOT get to dictate it with so many front runners there.
He would not have held on for another 2 furlongs at kempton so he will not be able to over the gruelling 3m2 at cheltenham.
The year Kauto was at his most devastating for me was when he was 10. All year he looked a total monster and i believe went off at odds on. He was then put to the sword and came completely unstick by denman and imperial commander. He will be put to the sword albeit not by denman this time.
If Long run gets round he beats him simple as.
However if he blunders several and winds himself then kauto is still leagues above the rest so might do it.
4/1. I’m laying him all the way!!!
Too many negatives, couldn’t win it the last two years why now? He was a better horse 2 years ago than now and struggled.
So you’re pretty much saying Kauto Star cannot and will not beat Long Run, therefore, what else can possibly beat Long Run? If Kauto Star cannot win in your book, surely Long Run must be a 1/2 chance himself then?
Yes pretty much. That is why i am backing him. I think he should be evens and 2-1 is very generous.
I think Kauto is one horse who could win if long run doesn’t get round, but i still think his old legs will hit a massive wall. Love the horse but couldn’t touch him.
I suspect even if long run doesn’t make it round there will be horses closing kauto down such as what a friend etc.
I am not 100 percent certain he cannot beat long run, he has already done him twice this year, i just think the roles will be reversed at prestbury park and Long run will get to him and will then pull away. I won’t be betting aggressively on the race not at the odds. But I will be laying Kauto for the win and consider laying the place too.
That’s a fair enough argument, should make for an interesting race hopefully. Roll on Cheltenham and and all our opinions will be made to look silly! Cannot wait for March 13th!!
Not sure about the laying for a place. But if he is odds on to place odds against not too will be tempting. He might run heroically again though. Besides, I am really unimpressed with the competition.
THe race is seriously weak or Kauto and LR are a massive cut above. I think it is something inbetween.
No way do i have Long Run in the same league as denman and kauto in their pomp not on my nelly.
I think he is a cut above the contenders here though.
Whatafriend – Could well run into a place and was a decent effort last year, with the same prep race this year i can see a decent repaet effort. At 9 he is prime for it.
Weird Al- Already made my case, think he won’t get round or if he does will struggle to land a blow. oo fragile looking, small field specialist.
Quito – Like to plod on and challenge- might not make the race.
All the rsa horses last year – Not good enough.
Exception – Quel espirit, race won yesterday was weak and 3m2 will be a total stretch, no way.Midnight chase – all heart and might run into a place. If it falls apart and say Kauto hits the walli envisage aand LOR blunders his chance he could be well placed.
Another ew squeak might be Hey big Spender who has a massive engine and is more of a national type. I worry about him though, he is reckless and jumping lets him down big time. won a few staying races this year of massive weights however, he won at venues with lenient fences, cheltenham finds him out. Not a confident bet but if he gets round he could place.
Grands Crus- Hope he sticks to novice races, would be a threat if not but would have to challenge the novice. Has a shout though, can’t deny only personal thinking is that it is too soon. Like to take feltham winners on in the same year at the fesival.
Synchronised – Plodder!!!
Burton Port – Could be anything, have had a saver on him.
Just a very weak renewal in my opinion.
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