2000 Guineas 2010

Not too early to start the 2000 Guineas thread, tomorrow is entry day I believe.

I quite like Workforce for this race. Sire is Kings Best who beat Giant’s Causeway in 2000. Who knows, could this grandson of Kingmambo beat Steinbeck the great-grandson of Storm Cat, will history repeat itself on the 1st saturday in May?

I backed Footstepsinthesand antepost to win this mostly because there were no sons/grandsons of Kingmambo high up in the antepost market in the December before he won. Later I backed Virginia Waters, daughter of Kingmambo to win antepost against the likes of Maids Causeway in the 1000 Guineas that year,she had awesome acceleration that day, cut them all down in the last furlong. A great weekend!

Well, as we go on, things will change, that’s for sure. I seem to remember that everyone was raving about Brian Boru as a Derby winner at this time of year some years ago, a reasonable Racing Post Trophy winner, did’t he come 16th in the 2003 Derby?

Does anyone actually know how the principals in the antepost market have wintered?

For those that say Ladbrokes have close connections with Coolmore, why is their Beethoven price 20/1 when you can get 33/1 elsewhere and even bigger on Betfair?

One thing I found interesting about the dewhurst was that Oratorio had nailed himself forecast in the race (by my recollection anyways). Could it be a sign of a trend this season. Always liked Fencing Master and was on him on the day but also like Steinbeck and may have a go on those two for the guineas.

I backed Steinbeck and Kingsfort.Before Goldolphin got that horse.I think Steinbeck will be a top class 3yo though on his form he has not done anything he improve this year.

Its Guess work until plans have been confirmed. The whole race revolves around the particaption of one horse

If there’s a horse out there that could spring a bit of a surprise it could be Clive Cox’s Xtension.

He did really well as a 2yo considering he never travelled like a winner in any of his races. He was one of the first to come off the bridle in 3 of his 4 runs last season and took a lot of stoking up to get going in each of them.

Canford Cliffs went off so fast at Goodwood nothing could live with him but Xtension albeit too late was finishing better than anything. In his next race they went very steady but he was again slow to pick up but once he got going he won going away after looking to have no chance.

The Dewhurst was run at a much faster pace and was more like a 6f sprint than a 7f Guineas trial. The way it panned out he probably seen too much daylight too soon and again was under pressure from along way out.

Clive Cox may run him in the Greenham if the ground is ok and if he wins that his 33/1 will soon disappear and he could be well worth backing to lay. He has said he has no worries sending him straight to the Guineas but with him being just bellow top class grabbing the Greenham beforehand might be the more sensible thing to do.

If he has come on as much as Clive Cox claims it won’t make much difference. He may not travel as well as St Nick or have the early pace of Canford Cliffs but he’s tough and has enough kick at the end of his races to put him right among them.

Best EW outsider by a long way for me.

After the mess he made of the race last year I wouldn’t be interested in any of AOB’s. Especially as the animals behind SNA in the betting have achieved bugger all.

I’ll be having a small ew on Canford Cliffs but the main event that weekend will be watching Special Duty sluice home in the 1000.

Here’s a thought re: ‘ Special Duty’ – there was talk of her when they had Lord Grimthorpe on Get On about her going for the Prix De L’Abbaye
last year as she had so much speed – trip no issue?

Fist,

Great minds think alike. There’s a few of us on here who apppear to fancy his chances.

I’m a huge Xtension fan and have long considered him a solid Guineas contender (see the ‘Dewhurst Stakes’ and ‘Racing Post Trophy’ threads).

Adam Kirby has described him as a ‘big baby’ and the impression I got at Newmarket was that he just lacked strength at the business end of a race.

He has reportedly wintered well and Clive Cox has said he could go straight to Newmarket – music to my ears.

I disagree with you about never travelling like the winner in any of his races. I think he travelled like the best horse in the race at Newmarket and just got unbalanced coming out of the dip.

This horse has a good attitude and it wouldn’t surprise me to see him get ten furlongs.

Did Xtension win that Group 2 at Goodwood last year?

I backed him and was travelling poorly for a long way….and then just zipped away from them when he got to the outside.

Forgive if i am wrong

Yes, he won the Vintage Stakes.