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No bet in the race but BERWICK LAW should be done under the non triers rule.
Absolute stonewaller,never put in the race
Have to agree. People fall over themselves to praise Murphy when he rides this sort of race and the others come back to him – when they don’t he just looks a complete idiot. Maximum penalty would not be unfair.
I actually watched the race with a view to Marleybow being a Ballymore Properties horse but although he won I was pretty disappointed. Still a promisding horse but he looks far more a three mile chaser than a hurdler on this showing.
I wish I could say I am surprised but half the time they only do anything if they are virtually forced into by those on TV – unfortunately Lydia and Steve must have known it looked a disgrace but chose to keep quiet – disappointing.
It is noticeable that the horse was hanging left thoughout – whether one thinks any greater recourse to the whip would have recitified that, and forced the horse to race a bit kinder, might have some bearing on how one ultimately judges the performance.
I’d mark it down as a benign introduction, if not necessarily the most educative.
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Whatever slant anyone wants to put on it he was a fancied horse never put in the race to win it – not acceptable in my book.
The stewards at Carlisle are reluctant to take action against the trainer, especially when the owner is on the board of the racecourse.
Typical "not off" introduction from a stable some people can read like a book.
The stewards at Carlisle are reluctant to take action against the trainer, especially when the owner is on the board of the racecourse.
Typical "not off" introduction from a stable some people can read like a book.
Wow, amazing to hear you say this Wallace, though I have no doubt it is true.
But basically it’s sending out a statement that if the owner is on the board of the racecourse, he can then do what the hell he likes with his racehorses on the track. What a shocking state of affairs the game is in if this is the case.
Mike
Lydia did mention it but not in strong terms . Said something like it will be a lot better for the run and came from nowhere. She was nowhere near as critical as she normally is when talking about banned jockeys ,corruption etc.Maybe she likes Timmy.
Even if she does I would hope she wouldn’t let it cloud her judgement. Probably more surprised at Steve as he is usually not afraid to say what he thinks. If I remember he was at the forefront of the criticism of Mark Bradburne riding that Henry Daly novice whose name escapes me. Talking of Steve met him once at a Racing Club function and came accross as a really nice bloke – no signs of any sort of professional arrogance.
There is a trainer who openly admits he is going to give his horse a school around, and everyone hacks and all except it as part of racing, the horse in question Aces Four, punters need protection, but when non triers are excepted as par for the course, well I Despair.
Did Ferdy Murphy say that they wouldn’t be going for the race win? Ferdy simply warned the public that Aces Four would probably need the run – anyone that backed him should have known that.
Aces Four was in contention but ran out of gas – whether this was because he needed the run or because he doesn’t stay is debatable.
Berwick Law was never given a chance at all.
Not every punter buys the RP, I knew not to back the horse because of the trainers comments, your average Joe Soap in the betting shop was probably blissfully unaware that Aces Four wasn’t fit enough to himself justice, and they put another few million into the bookies already bulging bank accounts. Bottom line Ferdy was using the racetrack as a training ground, because he said so himself.
A few further points to consider where Berwick Law in particular and Len Lungo in general is concerned;
– Berwick Law was having his first run since March, his first try on a surface faster than heavy, and over a trip beyond 2m, so there was a great element of suck-it-and-see in running him yesterday,
– His pedigree doesn’t exactly scream proficiency at 2m4f – none of three other half-siblings to race over jumps have scored in plentiful tries between 2m-2m3f, one half-sibling to win on the Flat did so over no further than a mile, and his dam is an unraced half-sibling of a 1m2f-1m7f winner rather than being more obvious National Hunt-bred stock,
– Lungo had three other runners at Carlisle yesterday, all of whom were making their seasonal reappearances and all of whom were held up to varying degrees,
– Lungo has not saddled a winner since May, and the overriding sense derived from those that have run so far is that they have not all quite come to the boil as yet.
I would presume that some or all of these factors may have been considered before the stewards decided whether or not to haul in trainer or jockey, and before Lydia Hislop and Steve Mellish considered whether or not to view the performance any more harshly than they eventually did.
Jeremy
(graysonscolumn)Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
I backed Berwick Law – but as soon as I saw him in the paddock i knew my money was lost. He’s just not 100% yet. I wouldn’t be surprised if he bolted in next race.
Madman,
If trainers are honest enough to put information in public regarding the fitness of their horse, then you only have yourself to blame for not being proactive enough to see this. The RP remains the primary (and possibly only) platform for trainers pre-race comments. If you wish to not purchase the RP, why not check RP online?Ferdy Murphy deserves a pat on the back for not withholding any information back, and as long as people are made aware of this, i fail to see what the problem is.
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