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  • #12813
    dprp
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    We have on of our horses Lucky Nellerie en route to Czech Republic for this but what exactly is it?! Charlie Mann & Ferdy Murphy regularly send runners and this year they have been joined by Kim Bailey amongst others.
    The Race: It is a 4m2f, cross country type race. The horses negotiate banks, hedges, fences, walls, rails & ploughed fields! 2009 will see the 119th running of the race.
    Prize Money: 4.5 million Czech korunas – about £150K with about £70K to the winner!
    When : Sunday 11th October
    Where : Pardubice Racecourse, Pardubice which is about 2 hours east of Prague in the Czech Republic.
    The Course : see http://www.freewebs.com/becher123 for a desription & photo of the course fence by fence.
    More information:
    http://www.freewebs.com/becher123
    http://www.pardubice-racecourse.cz
    http://www.vpcp.cz
    Last years race can be seen on youtube too.

    LUCKY NELLERIE

    Nellerie completed another schooling session at the cross country track on thurs and we are delighted with him. He has schooled aroun the cross country track twice, been for a racecourse gallop & a gallop at the beach & he had a super seasonal debut last week at Perth. He has been in full training since early August & looks spot on. The prep, thus far,has been great.

    From here its a long journey;

    Yorkshire to Lambourn Sat 3rd
    Lambourn to Bonn (Germany) Sun 4th
    Bonn to Floss (Cz/German border) Mon 5th
    Floss to Pardubice Tues 6th
    All along the way he has scheduled stable stops & will be able to stretch and trot out.
    He will be travelling in a convoy of 2 trucks, one carrying Lucky Luk (Kim Bailey) & Mr Big (Charlie Mann) & the other with Nellerie & the Irish horse Il en Reve (meeting us at Lambourn).

    Assuming that he travels ok, he goes with a sound prep under his belt.

    #251820
    Goldikova
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    We have on of our horses Lucky Nellerie en route to Czech Republic for this but what exactly is it?! Charlie Mann & Ferdy Murphy regularly send runners and this year they have been joined by Kim Bailey amongst others.

    The Race

    : It is a 4m2f, cross country type race.

    2009 will see the 119th running of the race.

    Prize Money

    : 4.5 million Czech korunas – about £150K with about £70K to the winner!

    When

    : Sunday 11th October

    Where

    : Pardubice Racecourse, Pardubice which is about 2 hours east of Prague in the Czech Republic.

    The Course

    : see http://www.freewebs.com/becher123 for a desription & photo of the course fence by fence.

    More information:

    http://www.freewebs.com/becher123
    http://www.pardubice-racecourse.cz
    http://www.vpcp.cz
    Last years race can be seen on youtube too.

    LUCKY NELLERIE

    Nellerie completed another schooling session at the cross country track on thurs and we are delighted with him. He has schooled aroun the cross country track twice, been for a racecourse gallop & a gallop at the beach & he had a super seasonal debut last week at Perth. He has been in full training since early August & looks spot on. The prep, thus far,has been great.

    From here its a long journey;

    Yorkshire to Lambourn Sat 3rd
    Lambourn to Bonn (Germany) Sun 4th
    Bonn to Floss (Cz/German border) Mon 5th
    Floss to Pardubice Tues 6th
    All along the way he has scheduled stable stops & will be able to stretch and trot out. He will be slightly sedated for the journey.

    He will be travelling in a convoy of 2 trucks, one carrying Lucky Luk (Kim Bailey) & Mr Big (Charlie Mann) & the other with Nellerie & the Irish horse Il en Reve (meeting us at Lambourn).

    Assuming that he travels ok, he goes with a sound prep under his belt.

    Why not throw in some broken glass and burnt out cars for good measure ?

    #251821
    Neil Watson
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    A cracking race after the warm up that is the Arc meeting.

    Nellerie looks a fair sort for that contest and hope he gives a good account of himself.

    This is a proper horse race and always one of my favourite events of the year, Getting coverage of the race is tricky as last year i went to a CZ tv site on their watch again facility before someone put it on Youtube.

    Hope all goes well for the yard.

    #251883
    AngloGerman
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    It’ll be my first ever visit to Pardubice on Sunday – I’m covering the race for my website, hoping to get a German bred or ridden winner of the race. Real international feel to the race this year, especially with the fact that, according to a text I got about 2 hours ago, there’s an Australian jockey competing. My only worry is that I’m in Prague on the Saturday, and the police have warned of possible trouble due to a World Cup qualifier between Czech Republic and Poland. As long as I’m not killed, I’ll be at the Velka on Sunday!!!

    Darren – AngloGerman
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    #251887
    AngloGerman
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    Still a week to go, but the declarations have been announced (taken from the Czech Jockey Club website):

    1 LUCKY NELLERIE(FR), 10 ž. Keith Mercer 68,0
    2 SUPER LORD(IRE), 11 ž. Jan Faltejsek 68,0
    3 SIXTEEN(FR), 9 ž. Josef Bartoš 2 66,0
    4 MONTGOMERY, 9 Petr Tůma 68,0
    5 POCCI(GER), 9 Jan Korpas 68,0
    6 TIUMEN(POL), 8 ž. Josef Váňa 2 68,0
    7 PROFIL, 9 ž. Michal Köhl 68,0
    8 IL EN REVE(FR), 11 ž. Kenneth Whelan 68,0
    9 DEL SOLE(POL), 7 žk. Josef Váňa 3 68,0
    10 SHIRLEY(POL), 8 ž. Marek Stromský 66,0
    11 MANDARINO, 8 ž. Jaroslav Myška 68,0
    12 LIRAIN, 8 Jaromír Hrudka 70,0
    13 TOMIS, 8 ž. Pavel Kašný 65,0
    14 JUFUL TENNIS(FR), 12 ž. Fernand de Oliveira 68,0
    15 MARATH, 9 ž. Paul Francis Hamblin 68,0
    16 LAKREG, 9 Martin Liška 68,0
    17 RED DANCER(FR), 13 Raffaele Romano 68,0
    18 ROOSEVELT(GER), 11 ž. Thomas Boyer 68,0
    19 JUNG(POL), 9 ž. Bohuslav Mátl 68,0
    20 LUCKY LUK(FR), 10 ž. Jason Maguire 68,0
    21 MR BIG(IRE), 8 ž. Noel Fehily 68,0
    22 HIRSCH, 13 ž. Dušan Andrés 68,0
    23 MR LAND, 10 Pavel Složil 68,0
    24 DERBY SHARP, 9 Josef Sovka 68,0
    25 NUMERO DUE(POL), 8 ž. Jiří Kousek 68,0
    26 RUBÍN, 7 Martina Růžičková 68,0

    Pity that Darkness has been taken out, but a really good field nontheless. Paul Hamblin is the Aussie I mentioned, and jockeys from 6 nations ride in the race. In addition, there is a Swedish challenger in the Paramo Gold Cup, the main supporting race. Personally, I can’t wait, but I’ve found out the meeting starts at 11:10 am – early train from Prague me thinks!!!

    Darren – AngloGerman
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    #251953
    Luther
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    Hi Darren,

    We exchanged posts recently re: Helmac and the May Baden-Baden meeting (wasn’t the most financially rewarding weekend)..

    We will also be in Pardubice for the Velka on Sunday and taking a fairly early train out from Prague in the morning – there is one at 09:30 from Holesevice, which takes just over a hour – so that should be perfect).

    I believe that the football kicks off at 20:30 so we should get a couple of peaceful hours in the City Centre.

    Think that Paul Hamblin has a couple of rides during the afternoon.

    dprp, some very interesting information on the journey out for the UK horses. I reckon that one of the UK horses could actually win it this year, maybe Mr. Big could go well after the Fontwell warm-up.

    Really looking forward to it…
    Luther

    #251960
    Neil Watson
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    It’ll be my first ever visit to Pardubice on Sunday – I’m covering the race for my website, hoping to get a German bred or ridden winner of the race. Real international feel to the race this year, especially with the fact that, according to a text I got about 2 hours ago, there’s an Australian jockey competing. My only worry is that I’m in Prague on the Saturday, and the police have warned of possible trouble due to a World Cup qualifier between Czech Republic and Poland. As long as I’m not killed, I’ll be at the Velka on Sunday!!!

    Darren – AngloGerman
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    Honestly its not as if those two countries have had troubles in the past, Just dont have a tache and wear anything with the number 88 on it and you should be ok.

    #251965
    graysonscolumn
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    Pity that Darkness has been taken out,

    And Silver Birch and Burntoakboy, for that matter! Still a solid-looking line-up for all that.

    gc

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    #251966
    tbracing
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    This race is pretty barbaric, surprised they don’t them jumping through rings of fire

    #251967
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    Was between the Velka and Trials Day at Auteuil for me this weekend. Sadly only had a day so couldn’t make the Czech Republic.

    Anyone know if Equidia will be showing it at all?

    Darren – do you have the links to the Italian XC races again? Loved seeing those last year :)

    #251979
    dprp
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    This race is pretty barbaric, surprised they don’t them jumping through rings of fire

    A challenge certainly…the combination of distance, variety of fences & the journey there make it that. In isolation, the fences are not so different to other challenges. For Taxis fence, read Bechers Brook and the walls & banks are no more than are regularly encountered on cross country/ 3 day event/ hunting circuits.

    It

    is

    challenging & I am not attempting to diminish that but if I felt it was "barbaric" we wouldnt be anywhere near it.

    #251985
    highflyer1
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    The jockey on No. 23 wouldn’t be the Pavel Slozil that I remember as a somewhat rotund, moustacheoed journeyman tennis player of the 1980s would he?

    Of course not, but it’s an amusing thought.

    #252003
    AngloGerman
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    Hi Darren,

    We exchanged posts recently re: Helmac and the May Baden-Baden meeting (wasn’t the most financially rewarding weekend)..

    We will also be in Pardubice for the Velka on Sunday and taking a fairly early train out from Prague in the morning – there is one at 09:30 from Holesevice, which takes just over a hour – so that should be perfect).

    I believe that the football kicks off at 20:30 so we should get a couple of peaceful hours in the City Centre.

    Hi Luther! Thanks for the info – might see you on the train if my lift doesn’t materialise! I actually though the racing would start about 2:00 as per in Germany, so I had a bit of a shock when I saw the meeting would start at 11:10!! Ouch – I’m not very good at early mornings!! I get into Prague on Friday, so I was hoping to have a nice stroll round the place on Saturday. Might be in the company of a few thousand Poles though!

    Darren – AngloGerman
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    #252010
    AngloGerman
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    Anyone know if Equidia will be showing it at all?

    Darren – do you have the links to the Italian XC races again? Loved seeing those last year :)

    Not sure if Equidia will be showing the Velka, but there’s a special website for Czech racing on TV here:

    http://www.ceskatelevize.cz/ivysilani/2 … 0019-turf/

    This program seens to go out every Tuesday and this is the edition from a couple of months back. 18 seconds in, you see the incredible bank at Albertovec, which is also featured about 15 minutes into the video.

    The Italian cross country races aren’t really put together as such. The best thing to do is to click on the form of a top cross country chaser, and in Italy, they come no better than Fatal Mac:

    http://www.ippica.biz/1/14_sch/14_cav.a … &T=G&ana=C

    Pity he’s been taken out of this years Velka, but he’s a class act, and just click on any of the yellow video icons to watch the races. You can then click on the other horses to see what they have run in.

    However, everthing paled into insignificance, when I saw that some very kind soul had posted the Altes Badener Jagdrennen, the nearest thing Germany has to the Grand National. Held at Baden-Baden over 3m 1 1/2 furlongs on the same day as the Grosse Preis von Baden, this is a Listed chase (no Group races over obstacles in Germany), and if you though the banks at Pardbice and Albertovec were special, you ain’t seen nothing yet!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvXIhwX_eX4

    The first time I was there was in 2001, and I stood there open mouthed and the horses almost seemed to be running through the tops of the trees!! It’s the most amazing obstacle I’ve ever seen, and the reason why Baden-Baden is my favourites course (although this might change on Sunday!!!). You’ll see it about 3.30 into the video. The beautiful grey by the way is the ex-George Haine Grey Image, now trained by Christian von der Recke.

    Darren – AngloGerman
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    #252013
    AngloGerman
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    Honestly its not as if those two countries have had troubles in the past, Just dont have a tache.

    Errrr…………………….

    Darren – AngloGermanHairyWalrus
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    #252017
    AngloGerman
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    Just got the current prices for the race – Sixteen an incredibly short price, but she won the last two runnings of course:

    1 LUCKY NELLERIE 10-1
    2 SUPER LORD 16-1
    3 SIXTEEN(FR) 2-1
    4 MONTGOMERY 40-1
    5 POCCI(GER) 12-1
    6 TIUMEN(POL) 10-1
    7 PROFIL 12-1
    8 IL EN REVE(FR) 20-1
    9 DEL SOLE(POL) 10-1
    10 SHIRLEY(POL) 77-1
    11 MANDARINO 10-1
    12 LIRAIN 100-1
    13 TOMIS 14-1
    14 JUFUL TENNIS(FR) 12-1
    15 MARATH 88-1
    16 LAKREG 44-1
    17 RED DANCER(FR) 35-1
    18 ROOSEVELT(GER) 60-1
    19 JUNG(POL) 22-1
    20 LUCKY LUK(FR) 16-1
    21 MR BIG(IRE) 10-1
    22 HIRSCH 24-1
    23 MR LAND 22-1
    24 DERBY SHARP 50-1
    25 NUMERO DUE(POL) 11-1
    26 RUBÍN 500-1

    The valus for me is the prolific winner Tomis. With form figures of 111-12, he won one of the quilifying races in May before second in a race over an inadequate distance at Svetla Hora. He’s won 7 of 17 races in all, all which have been over fences, and has beaten Pocci twice this season. As he’s German bred, German owned and ridden by my good friend and Christians stable jockey Jan Korpas, I’d love to see Pocci win, but he’s got a couple of lengths to find on form with Tomis. I might have a little wager on both of them each way.

    Darren – AngloGerman
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    #252021
    Luther
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    Hi Luther! Thanks for the info – might see you on the train if my lift doesn’t materialise! I actually though the racing would start about 2:00 as per in Germany, so I had a bit of a shock when I saw the meeting would start at 11:10!! Ouch – I’m not very good at early mornings!! I get into Prague on Friday, so I was hoping to have a nice stroll round the place on Saturday. Might be in the company of a few thousand Poles though!

    Darren – AngloGerman

    Yes, with regards to the time, we had the same thought and planned a bit of sight-seeing on Sunday am (we do not arrive in Prague till Saturday evening).
    At least it gives more time for a few celebratory beers in Prague on Sunday evening.
    I understand that you can walk the course after racing so an opportunity for a couple of photos by Taxis and the Irish Bank.
    Were did you get the odds for the Velka.? A local bookmaker.?
    I also understand that there is no Czech version of Sport-Welt, so we will be punting in the dark (will probably make it easier for me)..

    Good luck,
    Luther

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