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  • #20462
    rcl
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    hey there

    I have come here because I’d like an independent body of people to witness what I am selecting and the outcomes. At the moment I am in the development stage of a system that appears to be providing 100% wins on LAY betting.

    Now . . . . don’t worry – I know there are LOTS of so called tippers and services etc out there and I am not professing to be either nor will I go on to any sort of paid service (unless at least 6 months go by and I find myself making HUGE profit – even then I don’t really have time to run yet another business)

    So – heres the deal. I will post my selections prior to race start times and then repost with the outcomes – no catch – no BS. The last 2 days so far have seen the folowing

    08 dec 2011

    BROOKVILLE – TO LAY 2.35 CLOMMEL AT ODDS OF 6.0 (LAY) won the bet
    DANE COTTAGE 16.10 LUDLOW @ LAY @ 5.7 ( 9 RUNNERS) won the bet
    SHES ON THE CASE 14.20 TAUNTON @ LAY @8.8 ( 15 RUNNERS) ( 2f) WON THE BET
    FLAMBOUROUGH BREEZE 1700 KEMPTON LAY@ 7.6 ( 12 RUNNERS) won the bet
    SUTTON VENNY 18.30 KEMPTON LAY@6.6 won the bet
    SLATEY HEN 1900 KEMPTON LAY @ 9.00 won the bet

    09 dec

    12.35 chelt golden gael ( mare ) Lay @ 8.5 WON THE BET
    110 south suzies dream Lay @ 10.5 WON THE BET
    0225 south farmagusta lay @ 11.5 WON THE BET
    02.35 donc catawillow lay @ 28 WON THE BET
    15:35 South georgous goblin lay @7.6 WON THE BET
    15.40 wolv castelian spring lay @ 13.00 WON THE BET
    16.10 wolv cara camela lay @ 10.00 WON THE BET
    16.10 wolv our princess ellie lay @ 7.6 WON THE BET
    17.10 wolv anjomarba lay @ 12.00 WON THE BET
    17.4o wolv tro nessalay @ 18.5 WON THE BET
    1810 wolv pre catalin lay @9.2WON THE BET
    1810 wolv chorister girl lay @ 17.00 WON THE BET
    1840 wolv kai mook lay @ 17.00 WON THE BET
    1910 wolv nezhenka lay @ 15.00 WON THE BET
    18.00 dundalk sweet rythm lay @ 9.00 WON THE BET
    1830 dundalk brown butterfly lay @32.00 WON THE BET
    1830 dundalk alherra lay @19.5 WON THE BET
    1930 dundalk biting back lay @ 17.00 WON THE BET
    1930 dundalk hopes and dreams lay @ 16.5 WON THE BET
    2000 dundalk daisy mountain lay @ 9.2 WON THE BET
    2000 dundalk orafinitis lay @ 25 WON THE BET

    lets see how we get on

    I will start with a virtual bank of 1000 units and lay at stakes of 10 and calculate losses at whatever odds are showing at the time I make selections

    I am in an south eastern nation so the time diff is substantial

    lets see how we get on

    Start Bal 1000

    next lays

    2030 dund catilin collyteach lay @ 40
    2030 dund gortnamona @ 40
    2100 dundfammy sognare lay @ 25
    2100 dund matiska lay @8.0
    21.25 dund sweeter than heaven lay @ 16.00

    2030 dund catilin collyteach lay @ 40 WON THE BET
    2030 dund gortnamona @ 40 WON THE BET
    2100 dund fammy sognare lay @ 25 WON THE BET
    2100 dund matiska lay @8.0 scratched
    21.25 dund sweeter than heaven lay @ 16.00 WON THE BET

    @ 10 units per event bet profit is now + 40

    next post will contain tomorrows lay selections

    regards

    rcl

    #381855
    rcl
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    picks for tomorrow

    10dec

    11.50 ling lady kathleen lay @ 20
    15.10 ling anabas dance lay @ 20
    12.05 south miss ella jade lay @ 20
    13.50 south pusatilla lay @ 7.8
    14.25 south zenarinda lay @ 17.5
    15.30 south apassionforfashion lay @ 15.00
    12.10 chelt jackies solitaire lay @ 26.00
    12.15 navan mystic rythym lay at NO ODDS AVAILABLE
    18.50 wolv monadreem dancer LAY @ no odds available
    19.20 wolf ragda @ 7.0
    20.20 wolv blue moon lay @ 9.0
    20.50 wolv dolly colman lay @ 8.00 – (project lay odds based
    on back odds – no lay odds available as this selection is
    made 21 hrs and 56 minutes prior to race start and BF
    has no odds posted at all)

    all the above made min 12 hours before first race starts
    I am not able to do live racing odds just prior to race start due to time diff. I am around 12 hours ahead of UK

    lets see how we get on today :)

    #381860
    shakeshuck
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    • Total Posts 19

    Good luck with the selections for tomorrow :D

    #382028
    rcl
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    • Total Posts 11

    Results 10dec

    12.05 south miss ella jade lay @ 20 WON THE BET
    13.50 south pusatilla lay @ 7.8 WON THE BET
    14.25 south zenarinda lay @ 8.00 WON THE BET
    15.30 south apassionforfashion lay @ 15.00 WON THE BET
    12.10 chelt jackies solitaire lay @ 26.00 WON THE BET
    12.15 navan mystic rythym lay at NO ODDS AVAILABLE WON THE BET
    18.50 wolv monadreem dancer LAY @ no odds available WON THE BET
    19.20 wolf ragda @ 7.0 WON THE BET
    20.20 wolv blue moon lay @ 9.0 WON THE BET
    20.50 wolv dolly colman lay @ 8.00 – WON THE BET (project lay odds based on back odds – no lay odds available as this selection is
    made 21 hrs and 56 minutes prior to race start and BF
    has no odds posted at all)

    Wins = 10/10 :wink:
    Increase = 100 units
    start BT 1000
    Day 1 = 1040
    Day 2 = 1140

    #382050
    rcl
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    • Total Posts 11

    Picks for 11 Dec

    12.30 south magic millie no odds avail. at time of selection ( back odds are 33/1)
    13.00 south marina ballarina lay @ 8.2
    13.30 south primbynight no odds avail
    15.00 south absolute princess lay @ 11.5
    15.30 south caramaelita lay @ 11.00
    15.35 punch niarmah machine no odds avail
    12.45 here western kate no odds avail
    13.45 here commerce no odds avail
    14.45 here lucky breeze lay @ 48.00
    12.50 cork view of milan no odds avail ( back odds are 30/1)
    15.20 cork on a jet pplane no odds avail ( back odds are 60.00)

    some of these are high odds but selections done 24 hours ahead of time. often these odds reduce to a fraction of whats posted at the time the selections are made

    lets see if its any good selecting for dec 11

    #382081
    shakeshuck
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    • Total Posts 19

    Well done for the 10th – good results!

    I didn’t get all the prices, but unfortunately you can’t count Mystic Rhythm as the lowest price matched was 570! :shock: :wink:

    Good Luck today…

    #382166
    shakeshuck
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    • Total Posts 19

    11th Dec

    I was paying a bit more attention today :D

    View of Milan: lowest price matched was 290.

    Western Kate: I didn’t check early enough but SP (not BFSP) was 125/1 so realistically a sensible match was unlikely.

    Commerce: there was £25 matched below 100.

    Niamh Machine: £14 matched @ 100 exactly (lowest price).

    In other words, you might have got the bet on on Commerce and N.M. if you wanted, but they would both potentially have been risking all the bank. :(
    Gives another meaning to 100% lays :twisted:

    I think you need to add a rule to include a max price (or maybe not, it could be left to the punter), or make the stakes smaller for larger prices?

    Otherwise, well done – another 100% day. :D :D :D

    Cheers,

    Shakes.

    #382248
    rcl
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    • Total Posts 11

    Results for 11 Dec

    12.30 south magic millie no odds avail. at time of selection ( back odds are 33/1) WON THE BET
    13.00 south marina ballarina lay @ 8.2 WON THE BET
    13.30 south primbynight no odds avail WON THE BET
    15.00 south absolute princess lay @ 11.5 WON THE BET
    15.30 south caramaelita lay @ 11.00 WON THE BET
    15.35 punch niarmah machine no odds avail WON THE BET
    12.45 here western kate no odds avail WON THE BET
    13.45 here commerce no odds avail WON THE BET
    14.45 here lucky breeze lay @ 48.00 WON THE BET
    12.50 cork view of milan no odds avail ( back odds are 30/1) WON THE BET
    15.20 cork on a jet pplane no odds avail ( back odds are 60.00) scratched

    10 wins / 10 selections

    Increase = 100 units
    start BT 1000
    Day 1 = 1040
    Day 2 = 1240

    Bear in mind

    you only need 1 win

    to double your money ( minus 5% fees imposed by BF)

    as at today there are 24 straight winning bets :)

    #382250
    rcl
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    • Total Posts 11

    picks for 11 dec

    13.30 fake white diamond lay @ 6.5
    15.30 fake miss whippy no odds avail at selection time
    14.45 wolv rafella lay @ 11.0
    14.45 wolv make up lay @ 8.0
    15.45 wolv mosa mine lay @ 12.5
    16.45 wolv superstar queen no odds avail
    16.45 wolv frosty friday lay @ 6.0
    17.45 wolv belle park lay @ 25.0

    lets see what happens this time

    #382269
    shakeshuck
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    • Total Posts 19

    Results for 11 Dec
    as at today there are 24 straight winning bets

    No there isn’t. You’re not paying attention. :shock:

    You’re claiming a 10 unit bet @ 570 (i.e. a risk of 5700 units) when you’ve only got a 1000 unit bank.

    Bear in mind

    you only need 1 win

    to double your money ( minus 5% fees imposed by BF)

    What you mean (with some of the prices you’re claiming as wins) is you only need

    one loss to lose all your money

    !

    You’re doing a good job with the picks so far, let’s not ruin it by claiming wins that aren’t due (they are still wins, just not at the stake you’re quoting, as I mentioned previously).

    :wink:

    #382368
    rcl
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    • Total Posts 11

    Results for 11 Dec
    as at today there are 24 straight winning bets

    No there isn’t. You’re not paying attention. :shock:

    You’re claiming a 10 unit bet @ 570 (i.e. a risk of 5700 units) when you’ve only got a 1000 unit bank.

    Bear in mind

    you only need 1 win

    to double your money ( minus 5% fees imposed by BF)

    What you mean (with some of the prices you’re claiming as wins) is you only need

    one loss to lose all your money

    !

    You’re doing a good job with the picks so far, let’s not ruin it by claiming wins that aren’t due (they are still wins, just not at the stake you’re quoting, as I mentioned previously).

    :wink:

    ok -will just post the results then . . .np . . .lol

    #382369
    rcl
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    • Total Posts 11

    Results for 11 dec

    13.30 fake white diamond lay @ 6.5 WON THE BET
    15.30 fake miss whippy no odds avail at selection time WON THE BET
    14.45 wolv rafella lay @ 11.0 WON THE BET
    14.45 wolv make up lay @ 8.0 WON THE BET
    15.45 wolv mosa mine lay @ 12.5 WON THE BET
    16.45 wolv superstar queen no odds avail WON THE BET
    16.45 wolv frosty friday lay @ 6.0 WON THE BET
    17.45 wolv belle park lay @ 25.0 WON THE BET

    Interesting to note the system produced 2 losers in the 16.45 with odds
    on frosty friday @ around 5.50 and it ran to place 2nd, and 2 losers in the
    14.45 @ wolv with both picks at odds of 5.5 and rafella runnig second

    Whether it is simply sheer luck this system has not picked a winner yet only time will tell :)

    as for this "RCL WROTE:
    Results for 11 Dec
    as at today there are 24 straight winning bets"

    When the system produces a selection that actually wins a race (ie: comes first position) then the "straight run", as far as i am concerned, will have been broken. Until that happens, as far as I am concerned, these are all winning bets. Whether it is between you and I or you and betfair, if we bet a horse will lose and it does lose then it is a winning bet – see ???

    Now, as this is my thread, I get to define my own terms.
    As it stands, from what I can see, none of the selections I have posted have gone on to win a race – correct me if I am wrong please. If you wish to be the master you can post your selections too or ( even better) start your own thread. In the meantime I would respectfully ask you do not try to alter the definintions I am working with

    The system tells me that until a horse wins a race it is a ‘winning bet". so far that has not happened

    Now -for the record = 38 losses in a row :)

    thanks

    #382380
    shakeshuck
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    • Total Posts 19

    My qualms were with the bets as reported.

    You are posting here for proofing purposes, after all. 8)

    Keep up the good work with the selections…

    :) :) :)

    #382436
    rcl
    Member
    • Total Posts 11

    picks 4 12 dec

    of the 3 meetings and limited races these are the only picks today

    lets see what happens

    13.20 catt tobetall lay @ 160
    14.20 catt I got music lay @ 120
    13.00 south Kalahaag lay @ 21.0
    14.30 south six wives lay @ 9.0
    15.10 folk doyenne dream lay @ 7.6

    #382532
    rcl
    Member
    • Total Posts 11

    results

    13.20 catt tobetall lay @ 160 WON THE BET
    14.20 catt I got music lay @ 120 WON THE BET
    13.00 south Kalahaag lay @ 21.0 WON THE BET
    14.30 south six wives lay @ 9.0 LOST THE BET
    15.10 folk doyenne dream lay @ 7.6 WON THE BET

    FINALLY A LOSING BET . . ..

    + SELECTIONS = 38
    – SELECTIONS = 1 @ 9.0 = MINUS 90 UNITS

    37 w
    1 L

    so far . . .lol

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