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  • #24497
    steveh31
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    It appears ATR have still not managed to secure the rights to Irish Racing despite earlier reports RUK/Setanta had been rejected it is now reported that the door is still open to them and Ruby Walsh who is sponsored by Racing UK has said not going with RUK would be "a missed opportunity".

    http://www.irishtimes.com/business/sect … -1.1474792

    #446675
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    Having lost Ascot if At The Races were to lose the rights to Irish racing as well they must as well close down. While I’m not their biggest fan in the light of their shambolic racing reviews, I seriously hope this doesn’t happen.

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    The question is would it be a missed opportunity for Irish racing or missed opportunity for some individuals in Irish racing…..

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    The broadcasting of Irish racing should only be of interest to those residing in Ireland – why should day to day foreign racing be of general interest to a UK audience?

    OK major races are of interest to some and they can be shown on an ad-hoc basis, maybe by both domestic channels as happens with the top French races.

    The simple solution is

    British racing shown on British channels – RUK / ATR

    French racing shown on French channels – Equidia

    US racing shown on TVG / HRTV

    Turkish racing shown on TJK

    South African racing shown on Tellytrack

    etc. etc. etc.

    ergo ….. Irish racing shown on some domestic Irish channel for their own domestic audience. If someone in the UK really wants to watch all the Irish racing then they subscribe to the Irish channel in the same way they can subscribe to other international racing channels if that floats their boat.

    There are occasions where ATR show low grade Irish racing to the detriment of UK domestic racing – that cannot be correct.

    #446695
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    If it is a close thing then it will be interesting to know what ATR are offering as an extra incentive do the Irish authorities want full coverage, no dropping meetings on a busy bank holiday? no UK taking priority over Irish?

    I mean ATR must know they need this coverage to survive they cannot afford to lose it and the Irish authorities will be fully aware of this and maybe trying to squeeze extra money out of them by playing RUK off against them knowing full well they will sign to ATR again.

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    The broadcasting of Irish racing should only be of interest to those residing in Ireland – why should day to day foreign racing be of general interest to a UK audience?

    OK major races are of interest to some and they can be shown on an ad-hoc basis, maybe by both domestic channels as happens with the top French races.

    The simple solution is

    British racing shown on British channels – RUK / ATR

    French racing shown on French channels – Equidia

    US racing shown on TVG / HRTV

    Turkish racing shown on TJK

    South African racing shown on Tellytrack

    etc. etc. etc.

    ergo ….. Irish racing shown on some domestic Irish channel for their own domestic audience. If someone in the UK really wants to watch all the Irish racing then they subscribe to the Irish channel in the same way they can subscribe to other international racing channels if that floats their boat.

    There are occasions where ATR show low grade Irish racing to the detriment of UK domestic racing – that cannot be correct.

    I sort of agree Paul, (fully with your last point).

    Personally, I’m not interested in day-to-day Irish racing, but there is more of a ‘link’ between Irish racing and the UK than any other country, not least with the long history of Irish jockeys and trainers plying their trade over here.

    There’s also quite a significant amount of Irish runners in even fairly mundane UK races at certain tracks and two of the ‘Irish’ courses are in the UK anyway.

    It’s not the same thing as US or South African racing.

    Mike

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    Hope ATR hang on to it but Irish racing is ruined by the one-dimensional race-reading. Didn’t anyone tell them is supposed to be entertainment?

    #446716
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    British racing shown on British channels – RUK / ATR

    Should be one channel for British racing not two and it should be free to air.

    Two channels allows more people to get their fingers into the pie and when RUK started up it was mooted it would be free to air with sponsorship initially from Betfair, this was misguidedly not allowed by the BHA.

    #446736
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    British racing shown on British channels – RUK / ATR

    Should be one channel for British racing not two and it should be free to air.

    Two channels allows more people to get their fingers into the pie and when RUK started up it was mooted it would be free to air with sponsorship initially from Betfair, this was misguidedly not allowed by the BHA.

    Good in theory but there is too much racing in the UK for one channel to cover it fully, we already have split screen scenarios with the two channel set-up. To give full coverage the broadcaster would have to split to two or three channels to give anything other that continuous racing no build up.

    As for free to air, like communism a good concept in theory but totally unworkable in practice. Especially with the multi-channel scenario I described above.

    I would pose the question, why should it be free to air?

    Why should racing give their product away?

    How many other sports have total free to air coverage nowadays?

    #446759
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    I would pose the question, why should it be free to air?

    Why should racing give their product away?

    How many other sports have total free to air coverage nowadays?

    Well quite. This idea seems to pop up quite regularly in racing. One can only assume from people who go to work and don’t expect to be paid for it.

    Mike

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    Good in theory but there is too much racing in the UK for one channel to cover it fully, we already have split screen scenarios with the two channel set-up. To give full coverage the broadcaster would have to split to two or three channels to give anything other that continuous racing no build up.

    As for free to air, like communism a good concept in theory but totally unworkable in practice. Especially with the multi-channel scenario I described above.

    I would pose the question, why should it be free to air?

    Why should racing give their product away?

    How many other sports have total free to air coverage nowadays?

    How many sports, let alone what some consider a "minority" sport have 2 dedicated television channels that you have to cough up nearly £50 a month to watch?
    Racing unlike other sports is dependent on betting, the more people watch the more they can bet.

    Apart from Bank Holidays & a busy Saturday, races don’t clash that often and when they do the technology is available, don’t know about you but I struggle to watch more than one race at a time even if they’re on different channels.

    You only have to look at the transfer of a lot of the big races such as the Ebor & July Cup to Saturdays that racing cares little about build up to these races and that racing on these Saturdays is just a continuous conveyor belt of races.

    #446952
    steveh31
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    A meeting is taking place today to discuss the on going tv rights for Irish Racing in the UK.

    RUK/Setanta told to keep it’s offer open as BHI will review it after discussion with ATR are finished but ATR remains favourite.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/business/sect … -1.1477753

    #446963
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    racing uk could not cope with Irish racing no way it will be under a red button or racing uk 2

    atr will be finished without ascot and Irish racing

    JMO

    #446973
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    racing uk could not cope with Irish racing no way it will be under a red button or racing uk 2

    atr will be finished without ascot and Irish racing

    JMO

    If you read the links it says:

    The Racing UK-Setanta bid involves a dedicated channel that would be available free to around 500,000 homes on the UPC platform. That package would involve broadcasting, pre- and post-meeting analysis and promotion of the sport generally.

    It also says the ATR and RUK bids are very similar money wise it will come down to what can ATR offer that RUK cannot I wonder if IRH don’t believe a dedicated channel would be popular enough and the risk that RUK might drop it like it did US and South African and leave Irish Racing in the mire with ATR at least the racing is shown with the UK tracks which would keep it in viewers eyes.

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