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Have to post saturdays now<br>Cheltenham 12.50 – Red Blazer 2nd ew6/1<br>2.30 Fonmort yipee 5/1<br>Doncaster 1.00 Meadows Boy non runner<br>1.35 Samuel WilderspinLost<br>2.45 Hurricane LampLost (2nd)<br>3.20 Full IrishLost (2nd)<br>Fakenham 12.35 Runaway BishopLost<br>1.10 Diamonds will doonly 3rd<br>Haydock 12.10 Nowell House (although carrying a lot less weight poss ew Sahhar and Marsh Marigold)EW lost (as did the other two)<br>1.20 – Monarch’s Pursuit Lost(Clan Royal less weight ew)he was only 5th<br>1.50 October Mist only 4th ew(carrying less weight theory Ballylusky)was 2nd in the end
Don’t know forecast yet so 1 pt unless 6/1 or more in which case ew
Not great!<br>opening bank 10 pts <br>total bets 70 pts <br>total winnings 86.50 <br>bank as at 14/12 26.5 points<br>
(Edited by sacha at 10:57 am on Dec. 20, 2002)
Hackwood Park :cool: – we go there – might see you there Ian
If there a few of us going to a p2p this season maybe we could have a TRF meet up?
Wow thanks Robert – someone who actually saw the big lump in action. I don’t know whether i will run her this season (2003) as she was such a mess when I bought her. She’d been at a ‘proper’ trainers yard for a few months and was so mentally messed up and very underweight. It will be a while before i can even hunt her so i might try and event her this spring and if I keep her aim for the 2004 season. She will be a lot stronger by then and will be beautifully schooled of course;) <br>And I’ll try and get hold of those back issues too Adrian.
Cheltenham 1.10 – Darapour 1pt – Lost <br>1.45 – Storm Damage – 1pt ew 3rd at 6/1 <br>2.20 – Spectrometer – 1pt – 1st yipee 4/1<br>2.55 – Horus – 1pt 1st 5/2<br>3.25 – no selection
Doncaster 2.30 – Friedhelmo – 1ptLost
I ahve a theory that if there is more than one selection and there is a significant difference in weight carried between the two ( 10 pounds +), then the next selection down that is carrying at least 10 pounds less should also be considered?? Does any of that make sense?:o
eg at Cheltenham today<br>1.10 Darapour is carrying 11-2. Both Uncle Mick and Live the Dream meet the other criteria, but Uncle Mick carries 10 pounds less, live the dream carries 12 pounds less.<br>So a trial selection of 1pt ew on Uncle Mick Lost
In the 1.45 only 9 pounds between spectrometer and the quads And the Quads won @ 6/1- so maybe 10 pouns difference is too much
2.20 – Telimar Prince has ? on going and only 3 pounds less than spectrometer. but he managed 2nd at 7/1 But Zamat is 1 stone 4 less so trial selection of 1pt ew.<br>(Scullys Hope 4th @ 12/1 & Coultard carry even less weight)
2.55 – Horus is 11-4, quite a few fit the criteria but Kit Smartie is 9 pounds less. However he has a ? on going so 1pt ew may prove to be a bit risky 4th @ 16/1but not enough runners, the others that fitted the criteria were Ballinclay King 3rd at 16/1 and Bramblehill Duke 2nd at 16/1
At Doncaster Lauderdale is only 8 pounds lighter than Friedhelmo. and he was 2nd at 10/1<br>I won’t include these trial selections in the running total today but it will interesting to see if any of these longer odds run into a place.<br>I think using the topweight of all my selections is not the best as proved by some of the ‘other’ ones today – will think of this over the weekend.
opening bank 10 pts <br>total bets 57 pts <br>total winnings 81.00 <br>bank as at 13/12 34 points
(Edited by sacha at 3:39 pm on Dec. 13, 2002)
Thanks Sal!
I own her now and knew she hadn’t been terriebly succesful! She seems to have a lot of issues (although getting better all the time) and it would have been interesting if m&S had made any comments on her temperament at the time! Her previous owners did try again with her before F&M outbreak in 2001 but I think the jockey fell off :biggrin: so they gave up after that.
Any ideas as to where to buy back issues of M&S as they will prove very useful next time I go to the sales to bag a ‘bargin’;)
Thanks Kersley – as I am actually going to start keeping some data today that might be a good indicator!!
I don’t suppose anybody has a copy of the p2p form guide (mackensie & selby I think) from the 2000 season. I am just trying to find out if there was any comments made on a mare called Foxwood Polo who raced a couple of times that season – I know she ran at Dalston and Whittingham (both in the North West I think) taht season.<br>Thanks
Thanks for the tips Davejay. Stupiedly I haven’t been keeping track of other info – so will start today!<br>Todays selections<br>Huntingdon 12.45 – Bay Island 1pt – lost (only 3rd)<br>1.50 – no selection<br>2.50 – Nick the Jewel – 1pt – 1st 8/11
Ludlow 1.10 – no selection<br>1.40 – Lanmire Tower 1 pt (was only 4th but was 8-1)<br>2.10 – Reverse Swing (going a ?) – 1pt – lost<br>(I am not including the amateur riders as I don’t class that as a proper race!)
Taunton 2.00 – no selection<br>2.30 – Needwood Lion 1pt – 2nd<br>3.05 – no selection
Nearly forgot to add the banks position<br>opening bank 10 pts <br>total bets 51 pts <br>total winnings 70.00 <br>bank as at 11/12 29<br>(Edited by sacha at 4:56 pm on Dec. 12, 2002)<br>
(Edited by sacha at 8:52 am on Dec. 13, 2002)
typical – just as all 3 were absolute certainties – it’s cancelled :biggrin: <br>No past results I’m afraid Mr E – although I once tried this same system (ascending form) on a day’s racing in France and picked all 6 winners on the card – that’s why I thought I’d try it for real. (Well pretend real)<br>I will hone it down to include some other factors but will wait for a bit more data first.<br>Never mind – there’s always tomorrow
:biggrin: :biggrin: <br>i’m not sure what bromide is supposed to do – or shouldn’t I ask?
Ok – <br>Leicester 2.35 – Navarone – 1pt ew<br>3.05 – still giving ? on going a chance – Doigts D’Or – 1pt ew (if river styx wins I know the ? is a bad idea)<br>3.35 – Time n Tide – 1 pt <br>
Thanks Mr E – I will continue!!<br>Ok today’s soddy selection<br>Fontwell 12.45 – no selection<br>1.15 – Tullons Lane 1pt ew (he has a ? against the going so will decide after today if a ? is as bad as a X) – lost<br>3.15 – Trumper 1pt ew – lost<br>3.45 – Mithak – 1pt – lost
Sedgefield 1.55 – Maraud 1pt – lost (4th)<br>2.55 – Mighty Fine 1pt – lost<br>3.25 – Tarashani 1pt – lost (4th)
No winners<br>opening bank 10 pts <br>total bets 46 pts <br>total winnings 68.33 <br>bank as at 10/12 32.33
Still in profit but I’m eating into it!!
(Edited by sacha at 4:15 pm on Dec. 10, 2002)
Lets hope this weekend was just a bad day!
Ayr 1.15 – Yankee Jamie 1pt – 1st 10/3<br>1.45 – Kung hei fat choi – 1 pt ew – lost<br>2.15 – Lord of the loch – 1 pt ew – lost
opening bank 10 pts<br>total bets 38 pts<br>total winnings 68.33<br>bank as at 9/12 40.33<br>
(Edited by sacha at 4:35 pm on Dec. 9, 2002)
I’ll have to do tomorrows selections without knowing the forecast prices or RP opinion on whether they go on the ground or not, but still 1pt to win unless greater than 6/1 forecast in which case 1pt ew.<br>This could really test the bank as there are so many selections! Lets hope I make a least a little profit ;) <br>Warwick<br>12.25 – Mashhoor – Lost 1pt ew<br>2.00 – Duchamp – Lost 1pt<br>3.10 – Zaggy Lane – Lost 1 pt ew<br>Chepstow<br>1.20 – Master of Illusion – lost 1pt<br>1.50 – Beauchene-lost 1pt<br>2.20 – no selection<br>Sandown<br>12.50 – Dunston Bill-lost 1pt<br>1.25 – Chief Cashier-lost 1pt<br>3.05 – Mr Cool-lost 1pt<br>3.40- Majestic Bay-3rd 8/1 1 pt ew
Oh dear – not very succesful.
opening bank 10 pts<br>total bets 33 pts<br>winnings 64pts<br>total bank as at 7/12 41 pts<br>
(Edited by sacha at 8:53 am on Dec. 9, 2002)
Ok – now to prove how much of a fluke yesterday was :biggrin:
Exeter 1.00  -Madam Mosso 1pt ew – 1st 8-1 (great start)<br>2.05 Lancatrian Jet – 1pt – Lost (2nd)<br>2.40-  no selection<br>3.10 – would have been tacita but non runner
sandown 12.45 – canon mccarthy – 1pt -lost<br>2.25 – cimarron cove – 1 pt ew – 2nd 4/1 (shortened a lot from forecast)
total pts bet 6pts<br>total winnings – 14pts<br>profit friday 8pts
total after 3 days<br>opening bank 10pts<br>bet 21 pts<br>winnings 61 pts<br>bank balance at end day 3 – 50 pts<br>
(Edited by sacha at 3:50 pm on Dec. 6, 2002)
If anybody notices any flaws in my calculation please say – I have assumed 1/4 of the odds for ew – does that seem fair?<br>well the first two days have been fun, but if i’d put real money on they would have fallen at the first!!
:biggrin: <br>Ok so todays selections will be:<br>Leicester 1.30 – no selection<br>3.05 – Praire Minstrel – 1 pt – 1st 5/1<br>3.35 – Croker – 1 pt ew – 1st 16/1 (:cool: )
Market Rasen 1.10- Red Emperor – 1 pt – Lost<br>2.10 El Cordobes – 1pt – 1st 11/4
Wincanton 1.30 – no selection<br>2.25 – Dear Deal (I count slipped up as the same as BD) – 1 pt ew 2nd 8/1<br>2.55 Hear comes henry – 1 pt – lost<br>3.25 – madam Flora – 1 pt ew 3rd 16/1
Total points bet 10pts<br>Total points won 39.75<br>Profit 29.75
after two days – opening bank 10 points<br>bet 15 pts<br>winnings 47pts<br>bank total end day 2 = 42 points
wow not a bad start – why didn’t I have some real money on :cheesy:
<br>(Edited by sacha at 2:42 pm on Dec. 5, 2002)<br>
(Edited by sacha at 5:03 pm on Dec. 5, 2002)
Really sorry – but could someone explain the overround principle. (ignoramus here)
I though it was a great race to watch and well done to Cheltenham for an interesting and chaellenging course. I think the different obstacles encourage the horses to jump well and fail to see what is cruel about it?? Unless you think all NH racing is cruel?<br>A good jockey who has natural balance and a eye for a stride is a god send and the horses that had been schooled properly (as all chasers should) jumped well. When i finally achieve my ambition of becoming an owner I would love to have a horse run in such a race.
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