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  • in reply to: Large cash bets on-course #1590014
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    Simons posts on the star sports pitches are always worth a read, if for nothing other than getting a sense of what type of bet they might take. Some of the races at Cheltenham he reported on appeared to be turning over c.5/6k which will give a sense of where the market is at…
    The real drawback with on course betting is the physical cash transaction element, holding 2/3k in cash is just physcially awkward to be walking around with

    in reply to: How does the JP McManus operation work? #1575814
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    “J P has used his currency trading earnings from his Geneva base to invest in Ireland”

    It’s certainly quite an impressive growth of capital from starting as an on course bookmaker (making what 5/10 million ?) To forex billionaire

    in reply to: Gavin Sheehan – Losing rides on Nicholls horses #1575803
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    Did Sheehan even ride for Nichols before the King George, just sounds like a trainer power play after the outside jockey rode a poor race…as well as his in house riders

    in reply to: “Dettori” Sky documentaries. #1571190
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    Didnt think it was great either, Luca Cumani and Gosden came across well but it was basically following Dettori around for the last few years with some colour on his background. Some of the scenes and small conversations post race with his father were quite interesting to see the respect between them.

    There was a documentary on Lester Piggott from way back, very poor quality video but a couple of interesting stories

    in reply to: I bought a Racing Post yesterday #1569348
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    You’re correct Mike, the standard daily price is £3.9 as opposed to £2.9. I have a recollection of there being a premium on the £3.90 price during Cheltenham / Ascot / some of the other bigger meetings when picking up a copy previously also. The final figure is probably closer to a c.£1,100 + / c.3x + difference per annum in that case

    in reply to: I bought a Racing Post yesterday #1567997
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    The RP is priced as a digital paper ie. (Digital price : £349 for 12 months = £349/365 = £0.95 p/day, Paper price : £2.9p/day * 365 = £1,058.5 p/year) in effect Digital £349 v Paper £1058.50

    There are some criticisms you could level at the paper itself, none of the RP journalists will be winning a Pulitzer prize for journalism , Paul Kimmage/David Walsh, journalists who who have broken the biggest racing stories in probably 20 years as of now won’t be getting a weekly column on Sundays,half the paper is basic form lines of the prev 3 races etc but for £1 a day I would argue it is competitively priced

    in reply to: Doping in horse racing #1567643
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    Today’s Kimmage piece is well worth a read and gives some narrative around the premises involved in this weeks seizure

    Lance Armstrongs downfall wasn’t ever linked to a failed dope test which is probably worth noting for context here seeing as his name has come up since referenced to in the initial article.

    in reply to: Frost/Dunne #1563861
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    Can imagine the reluctance of people to talk until the reports fully published. The lack of any real comment from other people in the weighing room came across quite badly I thought, I guess thats on them however.

    in reply to: Frost/Dunne #1563858
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    Is it not a bit strange the article is published before the findings are fully formed?
    Maybe the BHA needed a push on this but thought the piece gave little bar put some meat on the bones of what had been drip fed out previously.
    The questioning of the other jockeys who might have been in or around the incidents at time of occurring, referenced at the end of the piece, was a bit toothless as a result.

    in reply to: Oisin Murphy – oh dear #1563701
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    “Unless you have walked in his shoes, you have no right to say anything. No-one’s dead and everyone makes mistakes. He’s a growing man, still a young lad.”

    As Fahad Al Thani points out in the quote above, Oisin Murphy hasn’t killed anyone. There are literally thousands of unexplained deaths in Qatar from the article below, this is a storm in a teacup….

    https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2021/aug/26/qatar-has-failed-to-explain-up-to-70-of-migrant-worker-deaths-in-past-10-years-amnesty

    in reply to: Oisin Murphy – oh dear #1562933
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    Is a breathalyser test for every jockey riding every day such an overhead for the BHA / HRI that it needs to be done on random sample sizes?

    The test is there to find positives, I take the view that jockeys are no different to other humans and of the population some take cocaine, some drink too much occasionally, some might drink too much more than occasionally.

    Finding a positive from someone who is in the top 5% of jockeys who have taken up rides by volume during the season doesn’t strike me as that big a story

    in reply to: Is the era of Ballydoyle domination over? #1562299
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    “To the extent that it’s just laughable. When Henry Cecil said Frankel was the best he’d had, everyone was interested. If Coolmore had trained Frankel (and let’s remember that they nearly did) he’d have been retired as a 3yo, possibly after being beaten in the Derby, and AOB would have said he was he best he’d ever trained…but nobody would have believed him because that’s what he always say”

    Breeders Cup dirt would have been a possible, all those races

    in reply to: Is the era of Ballydoyle domination over? #1562295
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    APOB more spikey than usual when questioned about the ongoing doping discussion in the RP interview today.

    The obvious way to counter “pub talk” and people “talking out of the side of their mouth” is with an objective standard of drug testing that is carried out to at least an equal / higher standard than the most sensitive levels elsewhere in the world maybe?

    Considering its a year on from pulling horses on Arc weekend because they might test positive and then having runners in Newmarket with the saddle cloths mixed up a week later, genuine as it might have been, it was a weak counter to the questions posed on the topic.
    He might have been caught off guard and expecting an easier set of questions considering it was the RP though…

    in reply to: Ideas for Modules for an Online Betting Course #1560514
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    A statistics professor from Rutgers has recently run an online seminar on this topic it might give some food for thought, Bill Benter was a guest lecturer.

    Details on the curriculum are here: https://analytics.bet/
    promo video here: https://youtu.be/M8gslQAx9f8

    Like most of these things its the independent thinking you do following on from the basic topics introduced on any course which will likely be of most value

    in reply to: Alan Potts Pro-Punter #BettingPeople special #1558505
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    This series as a whole is one of the best horse racing / betting media ouputs out there. The Terry Ramsden interviews were a great listen

    in reply to: Rishi Persad – what’s the point! #1555582
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    I know their own employees came out on top but surprised Racing tv are giving air to a poll like that on their website. I wonder do they keep as close an eye on the critical polls or observations made online as well ?

    in reply to: 2001/2021 – the changing betting landscape #1553829
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    Hong Kong is often put up as the gold standard for an optimum tote system for government / bettors but it’s quite unique in regards the small data set (fixed pool of horses, jockeys, racetracks etc), appetite for gambling amongst the public and administration of the jurisdiction by the jockey club there.

    What the optimum Eco system between exchange / bookmaker/ tote is I don’t know but there are positives and negatives to all. If you bet into a tote or betting exchange what proportion of the money in the pool is seeded by syndicates receiving kick backs in the form of a rebate from the operator for example? Is there a liquidity issue / penal takeout issue as in the French example above ? If you bet with a bookmaker will they shut up shop once they realize they cant win or use the information they have from the a/c to generate an edge on their side?

    The one thing which is consistent no matter what jurisdiction you look at and which will always be a constant is whats in it for the government to license betting

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