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    oldjohn69
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    I had a conversation with my betting shop manager today about gaming machines and he tells me that they are what keeps betting shops open these days,attracting more turnover then the total slips across the counter !
    I find this unbelievably sad and since they were introduced in the shops many years ago I have criticised their presence in no uncertain terms.They may well be profitable for the shops but I still feel that they are responsible for taking revenue away from sport.Also they are so addictive that they must surely be a major threat to the recent policy promoted by gambleaware.com in attempting to persuade people to bet responsibly ! Originally my personal grouse used to be that the noise these infernal machines make undermines the sanctity of the betting shop,half the time you can’t hear the commentaries,and the noise generated by a gang of youths and their entourage is worse than chucking out time on a Friday night ! Ok I hear you say,live and let live,but I feel that this addiction is dangerous.

    in reply to: Following Racing for 60 years #323873
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    Hi Zamorston,
    Anything to do with MORSTON ? I entirely agree with your comments on the luck element and you couldn’t have had much worse luck than myself in 1973 when Noble Decree was pipped ‘on the nod’ by Mon Fils in the 2000 guineas.
    I had taken 100/1 on Noble Decree a few days early, and 14/1 about Mysterious in the 1000 guineas (which she won), in 2 each way singles and an each way double,so Noble Decree losing cost me at least £7500,a lot of dough to a young working guy in 1973.If that one had come off then I like to feel I would have had a crack at making a living at it. I’ve been close a few times but now I’m quite content that I have a profitable hobby.
    So of course I wouldn’t disagree with you one bit but as far as possible I reduce the element of luck by having taken into account as many elements of form as possible,coupled with always looking for value for money in the odds,and sticking mainly to my beloved placepots.
    Who needs to back winners when there is a very real science to picking placed horses and opposing the jollies. Anyway what I was really getting at was the fact that you can have a conversation with people who have been punters for 20 or 30 years and they think the form constitutes a 1,2,or a 3 next to the name on the racecard ! I once pointed out to someone that a nag who had won it’s last 3 races had beaten a total of 8 very poor horses in those 3 races. And if you tell them that one of the most important elements of form is ‘the going’ they look at you as though you came from another galaxy ! Anyway thanks for your input, and happy punting.

    in reply to: Frankel – What did you think ? #323696
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    Well Coggy I am now approaching 70 at a rate of knots so have a long long memory having been following the sport since the age of 8 ! I was impressed by Frankel,s last 2 wins but it’s way too early to call him a Classic winner in waiting.Far too many reputations have been smashed after their 3 year old reappearances ever since a horse called Pinturischio was a Winter Derby favourite decades ago.Almost every year we get a 2year old ‘talking horse’ and disappointment is almost inevitable. Being a cynic I have long suspected that the bookies are perfectly happy to offer decent odds for these 2 year olds ante-post during the winter before the Classics. Frankel looks the part but will he grow into a 3 year old of the same standard ? Where are the late developers and the unraced colts from Ballydoyle or Godolphin. I have always said that ante-post is a dodgy game so my advice would be to keep your powder dry !
    PS I forget to mention that Pinturischio was like Crowned Prince and never raced as a 3 year old.

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