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  • in reply to: Munster National 2024 #1710012
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    Some extra data for those with an interest in a race trends perspective.
    Just early days phase #1 stuff that looks at pure race trends alone.
    More work to be done [ by my mate Guy ] by race day.

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    Munster National

    34 horses in the race

    No market at the moment

    Who want’s it most ?

    Trainers runners

    9 Gordon Elliott
    4 Gavin Cromwell
    4 E McNamara
    2 W P Mullins

    Willie Mullins only has 2 entered
    Expecting only 1 of those to run
    But clearly has not prioritised this

    Things will be clearer
    When we know who runs

    Race statistics below

    Sunday 2nd October

    Limerick 4.15

    Munster National

    Handicap Chase

    Age of Recent winners

    7 9 7 7 7 7 8 6 7 6 7
    7 8 8 8 6 7 8 8 7 10
    10 8 9 8 8 7 6 7 7

    Horses aged 9 or more
    Have a 1-82 record since 2007

    The only 9yo winner (2022)
    Was unusually lightly raced

    28 of the last 30 winners
    Were under 10 years old

    The 10yo winners were lucky
    One won in a really tiny field
    One when half of his rivals
    Were disqualified in the race

    Past winners
    Had the following chase runs

    19 8 5 6 9 10 6 7 4
    7 13 4 3 12 5 5 5

    Snapshot of past winners

    2023 – 7 Year old with 19 Chases
    2022 – 9 Year old with 5 Chases
    2021 – 7 Year old with 5 Chases
    2020 – 7 Year old with 6 Chases
    2019 – 7 Year old with 9 Chases
    2018 – 7 Year old with 10 Chases
    2017 – 8 Year old with 6 Chases
    2016 – 6 Year old with 7 Chases
    2015 – 7 Year old with 4 Chases
    2014 – 6 Year old with 7 Chases
    2013 – 7 Year old with 13 Chases
    2012 – 7 Year old with 4 Chases
    2011 – 8 Year old with 3 Chases
    2010 – 8 Year old with 12 Chases
    2009 – 8 Year old with 5 Chases
    2008 – 6 Year old with 5 Chases
    2007 – 7 Year old with 5 Chases

    Only 1 past winner
    Had under 4 Chase runs

    That was 8yo Muirhead in 2011
    Who had Grade 1 form to his name
    He had 3 prep runs before winning

    Horses with 14 + Chase runs
    Won this race in 2006 and 2023
    They won in small fields of 11-12
    They both had 2 + runs that year
    Both came from the Kerry National

    Horses from Kerry’s National
    Won this twice 2014-2023
    They have a 2-51 record

    Horses aged 8 or more
    From the Kerry National
    Have a 0-29 record so far

    Horses from Kerry’s National
    Who finished the race last time
    Have a 1-36 record
    That winner had 4 prep runs
    Those with 1-2 prep runs
    Have a 0-22 record in this

    Past winners
    Had the following days absences

    32 252 316 10 35 72 224 22 74 25
    64 37 17 25 132 172 170 18

    Horses absent over 4 months
    Won this race 6 times recently
    They had 8 5 6 5 5 6 Chase runs

    None with more than 8 chases
    Won this with a long absence
    Those that tried it were 0-26

    Horses with 1 run this season
    Running within the last 34 days
    Have a worrying 0-28 record

    Most winners had 4-15 hurdle runs
    All had fewer than 16 hurdle races

    No horse has won this race
    With more than 35 lifetime runs

    Almost every past winner
    Had 13-34 Lifetime starts

    The 6-year old winners of this
    Both had 7 previous chase runs

    Horses rated 145 or more
    Have a 0-16 record so far

    No horse aged 8 or more
    Won with 11st 5lbs or more (0-12)

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    Best Wishes
    Mick

    in reply to: Ratings Method – Dusted Off! #1710010
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    Thanks for the interesting thread Rob.
    I am new here today but have read
    through about 19 of 77 pages so far.
    A good lesson in hard work and dog
    with a bone like Perseverance.

    You have inspired me to go hunt out a few old
    Tom Ainslie Books.
    Dog earned old copies of The Compleat Horseplayer &
    Ainslie’s Complete Guide To Thoroughbred Racing
    are now winging their way to me from Amazon.

    Always nice when the postman delivers something
    that is not a bill.

    Best wishes
    Mick

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