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des<br>sorry for the late reply , i worked all night and just had look on forum <br>you are right with the jarvis ma selection at wolv fri seagulls list  statesfor 3+ older races for this trainer if seagull checks his list at top of this thread he will see<br>i can see his mistake he intends to say 3yo only as the stats clearly show this  9 -21 43% sr =  +106% is for 3yo only<br>3 + stats are 7 – 34  21 % =+ 7%<br>and all horses at wolv is 18 – 68 =26% sr = + 32% so could be said to be enough to use as selection alone<br>but i can see by those stats the intent to select 3yo only , so a mistake by seagull on list he put up , i think we will stick with 3yo only for the next two weeks and alter are list for jarvis ma<br>only thing is if we keep on getting it right we may lose all seagulls profit before he returns…ha<br>i will still be busy at work p to tuesday working late so if it looks late for selections from me put up what you find if you can , you have been right so far<br>regards<br>Lineform
(Edited by lineform at 2:10 pm on Mar. 5, 2005)
Seagull<br>i will put them up for you for the 2 weeks , and if des could keep an eye on my selections for me and let me know if i make any mistakes that would be great<br>regards<br>Lineform
just looked on rsb pro<br>loder d.r <br>last 6 years up to 2004 end <br>3yo races 2-9 22% sr = – 44% lsp<br>3y0 + horses 9-28 32 % sr = + 36% ls lsp<br>that said 2004 was a losing year for 3yo + a good strike rate of 33% with a lose of – 38% ( 5-15 33%sr =-38% lsp) this at ling aw of course based over last 4 years as he had no runners in this catergorie the two years before that, i know seagull likes to take last 6 year data<br>regards<br>Lineform
Des<br>i had this trouble last week , as it says on the list 3yo and older horse only<br>but i noticed seagull never selected a loder 3yo so i checked it out on rsb pro and he does not do to well with 3yo , <br>so what i have done on my print out of seagulls method is put a ‘+ ‘ next to 3yo after loders name <br>so i just back loders 3yo + older horses and i seem now to select same loder horses as seagull, but yes it does look as if we should be selecting 3yo as well according to instructions on list but i think is a mistake<br>regards<br>Lineform
Yes true <br>i think your right it hasto be 4yo +h/c . <br>i thought you would collect on place before not a bad run from chiali<br>regards
des<br>the good thing about a method like this is the big prices you can get about the bigger priced selections like the 50.0 you got ( i will have to join betdaq), even though it is like swimming against the tide at times , if we keep on trying to get best price i don,t think we will do to bad overall<br>i have noticed some of are winning selections reduce in price though so when you see 44.0 and 50.0 about a selection you do worry, saying that some have drfted like the 28/1 shot we had<br>regards<br>lineform <br>
just had a quick look on RSB<br>boyle jr does quite well with all age horses anyway <br>last six years upto end of 2004 11 -73 15% sr for 120% lsp<br>also i note RSB does not have 3yo + h/c categorie , it has a 4yo + h/c categories . may be what seagull means is jr boyles h/c runners that are 4 + year old running in an open age race <br>and not races for 4yo + as we are thinking<br>regards<br>lineform
Des<br>i also agree with you , if you look a little back in thread i had the same point with same trainer (jr boyle 4yo + h/c)and race conditions this is for 3yo +<br>i don’ mean to pick holes for the sake of it but i want to get this right for myself as i have backed every selection so for that i think is a selection from the oringinal list on page one and i am well if profit so many thanks to seagull for this thread it has given me a new past time , i lke the trainers method as i can play about with  RSB software of i have over 15 years data to look at  .by the way <br>i back chilali @ at over 40.0 as i back all  selections whatever the price, so if i have it wrong oops!<br>regards<br>lineform<br>
(Edited by lineform at 12:50 pm on Mar. 1, 2005)
seagull
chilali 1:30 ling <br>is this one of yours ( A . Berry 2yo + 3yo horses)regards<br>Lineform
maybe it was the racing post online that was wrong , as it stated the race was for 3yo +<br>your list states 4y0 + for jr boyle <br>regards<br>lineform
Hi Seagull<br>a quick question for my own mind as i try and learn this method<br>the selection for boyle jr today your list says 4 + H/C todays race is 3 + is this really the same thing<br>i glad you posted this method it has given me an interest in trainers methods now and racing is really more fun this way , it gives you a focus on one area and look forward to trying this on the coming turf season , and to learn more about the methods used by hese and other trainers<br>best regards<br>lineform
Thanks seagull <br>i backed the 5:00 selection , only thing is i got 24.0 on betfair the sp was 28/1 but still excellent stuff from your system ,you have got to stick with selections with a system like this even when at times your tank takes a bit of a hit, then bam ! you smash your way back ahead
your the man seagull no one comes near to you with a system on this or any other forum<br>regards<br>Lineform
p.s are you going to produce a list for for the flat season (turf) hope you do<br>once again Thanks :biggrin: <br>
Thanks for that paul , no problem <br>yer i have noticed some members like to comment on other peoples systems , they like to police them
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lineform
selection tue
BA Clubman  south 3:00 won 5-6 i got 2.43 on bf
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(Edited by lineform at 6:58 pm on Feb. 15, 2005)
