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I’m all for people expressing opinions.
I do wonder however the creation of social media and the problems and divisions it has caused between friends, families, even countries, with views right out in the open as it has highlighted polar opposites in people.
No one rarely wants to back down, and because statements and views are recorded in b&w gives sides time to counter challenge. And so it can go on and on, with ante’s being upped to try and win the argument.And in some cases the use and accusations can lead to courts, it’s become a very serious part of life.
Can’t say I watch MOTD anymore, but I might just tune in to take in a programme without the spiel of it’s lead hypocrite.
Richard says:
“ Cutting yourself off from your closest neighbours makes no sense whatsoever, be that the UK from the EU or Scotland from the UK. You’ll be forever within their sphere of influence but with absolutely no say in their affairs whatsoever”.Really? Ask Cameron when he went to their table to ask for reform. Taken from ITV news November 2015
“ In his speech, Mr Cameron is expected to say he has “every confidence” of reaching an agreement which works for Britain and other EU members.
But he will warn: “If we can’t reach such an agreement, and if Britain’s concerns were to be met with a deaf ear, which I do not believe will happen, then we will have to think again about whether this European Union is right for us. As I have said before – I rule nothing out.”Richard says:
“ Perhaps that helps explain a jump in support for Unionism, they’ve seen the dreadful effects of Brexit on the UK and don’t want to be cut even further adrift”.Really? Yes we left 3 years ago. But what have we faced in between? Seven weeks after we left we and the world shutdown. Then as we emerged from covid in early 2022 Putin decided to invade Ukraine. To me Brexit has been put on hold and even before 2 major world changing events it was never going produce results in the short term, and that is very naive to think a switch would be flicked and things would change.
In fact the only thing that was supposed to change immediately the day we voted to leave was a 10-15% drop in house prices. What happened to that, no one has explained on the remainer side what went wrong then. I would have welcomed the drop.But, looking back we can argue and argue and both sides would never agree still, it’s futile.
On the present, what we can agree on is how bad the govt are, the cons aren’t a Brexit party, the same as labour, well the ones who make the final decisions aren’t.
Many feel politically homeless. They don’t trust the cons, they are not delivering and labour would not have done any better.
If there was a GE now we know Labour would win quite comfortably, the polls can’t be that far out.
But, this probable peak for them may have come too early, the only way is down and as they become more vocal they too will fall favour to many voters.
Reform, who you have labelled far right Richard with Tice, just like certain MSM are calling the right either hard or far right even more at present are still too small to challenge.
All I would say so far out and with so much to play out still god knows how the GE will pan out.
I think it will be Brexit election still as many areas of Brexit still would not have been sorted out or gone through. The cons have been very reluctant, or at least the ones with powers have been.And I would also say watch out for Lee Anderson, who could just turn it around for the cons if his position could be elevated further.
100 days of unelected Rishi!
Still nothing done, no bounce back, no urgency, all the big issues still in limbo, or elsewhere.“ Ah yes good old Davos, the self appointed ‘global elite’ flying in by private jet and helicopter to preach to us, amongst other things, about climate change. Couldn’t give a toss what any of them have to say”.
Totally agree with you Richard, the collection of so called elitists with their ego’s and their warped thoughts on the future for mankind feels like something out of a Bond Movie.
“Economically we have erected barriers between ourselves and a trading bloc of half a billion mostly wealthy people who again are on our doorstep.
And yet people and politicians just don’t see it, it’s all covid and the war causing everything 🙄. Well, politicians probably see it, they just don’t say anything”.
Did anyone say you would see any Brexit benefits as soon as we left Richard? I was on the understanding it will take several years at least to see evidence with all the unentwining we have to do, and it’s pretty naive to expect things will happen at the flick of a switch.
We were told though by remoaners that the housing market would fall 10-15% as soon as we voted to leave. What happened to that?And as I see it, we left on 31st Jan 2020 and just seven weeks later on 23rd March we and most of the world were in lockdowns with disruption to work, supplies, everything.
Come the start of 2022 where we truly started to get back to some sort of normality, Putin decides to invade which has thrown things up in the air again.
Brexit has never been given a chance, and even if the big two events hadn’t happened it would have still been too early to see many results.
We still have 4,000 of the laws to sort out yet. Things have been pushed back a couple of years on top of expectations already.
I can see the appetite for Brexit to fail for a number just to prove a point, even if this country goes down.
But they are really naive if they expected to see any results now, even before two major world impact events.I just see them as unaccepting, and undemocratic.
Trouble is Richard where as people accept results of General Election’s, remoaners have never accepted the referendum result, wanting another one straight away, want this country to fail just to prove a point and have been a thorn in this country’s side ever since.
Our democracy is set every four or five years generally, there’s nothing wrong with that only those that try to kill it as per another referendum, like Starmer.
But now, currently, I’m in no doubt whoever is in power is not up to the job, and that goes for Labour, they are shite as well.
If and when Labour get in then fine, that’s democracy. My feeling though is for an even bigger disaster than we have now and they’ll be out the following election.
I can see it coming that they will have us as close to the EU as possible, which is against the wishes of the majority.
Then watch the sparks fly when they destroy our democracy.The country has currently gone to the dogs now so who gives a **** really.
Most I reckon feel politically homeless!
“ I was being somewhat facetious, he’d be a disaster and would lead to a Labour government in a matter of weeks”.
So Sunak in charge now is not a disaster, no bounce back on what was there before, no real action or urgency on any of the many big issues this country is facing. He wasn’t the choice of anyone, and unelected.
On the contrary I think voters would warm to LA who would be quite different to previous PMs, the left and MSM would not know how to handle him, just like Trump, but the majority of people would like him.
My only concern would be there are so many toady left liberal Tory’s as MPs, that would be their downfall.The Tory’s have nothing to lose because leaving thing’s as they are now is their disaster.
They need to take a ‘punt’, they have no option.“ We do agree on Lee ’30p’ Anderson though, I would happily see him made Tory leader tomorrow”.
That really surprises me Richard. I would have thought Lee would be the polar opposite for you as regards values etc.
Can’t see this will be too riveting!
The Toff has his own show.
The cons have done nothing to suggest they are turning things around, indeed as each day goes on the public will only feel their concerns just haven’t been listened to, or addressed.
Sunak has to go now and the only way the Tory’s will win is by bringing someone in like Lee Anderson in there.
Would love to see him shake things up and he would get things done. Trouble is it’s been exposed there are so many left tory globalist MPs, they need to go as well.
I forgot another channel where politics is rife, youtube.
But all I see is mainly people on the right on there who have effectively been cancelled, or have no place on the BBC, ITV, C4, C5 or Sky.They just would not ‘entertain’ them.
I would say MSM includes the TV so we have BBC, ITV, C4, C5 and Sky for the left versus GB News and Talk TV.
The TV is received by many more millions than the papers so would say MSM as a whole is very much to the left.
