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Quote: from Meshaheer on 2:17 am on Dec. 8, 2004[br]Yeah Martin, the Annual is a bit disappointing overall. Haven’t actually got Clubland 6 but my dad has bought it so I guess I’ll get a copy and check it out. (In case you were wondering my dad is into hard house and trance and usually nicks all my CDs!!!):o <br>
<br>Ach, this trance stuff defeats me completely. I prefer the old Detroit techno, mid to late 80s house music (whoever’s just released a mauled version of "Strings of Life" needs inhumanely destroying this instant!) and all that pummeling hardcore u know the score stuff from the early 90s.
Dance music interests me appreciably less nowadays, although some of the happy hardcore Peel played right up to his end kicks botty, and the odd bit of speed garage or gabba is always welcome.
Jeremy<br>(graysonscolumn)<br>
(Edited by graysonscolumn at 12:56 am on Feb. 6, 2005)
Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
Quote: from Prufrock on 11:55 pm on Dec. 2, 2004[br]This might not play well with the posse, but I’m currently listening to Aphex Twin’s "Ambient Works" and am shortly going to put Boards of Canada’s "Geogaddi" on. I’m a bit of an ambient/experimental type but managed to segue Radiohead and Divine Comedy a bit earlier……….
So there.<br>
<br>"Geogaddi" is a mighty album, respect. As for Divine Comedy, his smugger-than-thou stuff annoyed as much as it delighted, but the recent "Absent Friends" is a career highlight, absolutely delightful.
Jeremy<br>(graysonscolumn)<br>
Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
Hiya,
New bands / acts I like? Hmm, tricky.
I despise most of the generic sludge laughingly passed off under the misappropriated "indie" tag by the Evening Session and its ilk, although the Zutons are reasonable enough as new acts go. The bits of sax and edgy energy are enough to separate them from a lot of the depressed no-marks in overcoats.
But I much prefer the less-heralded Grand National, dance-tinged alternative pop with the occasional nod to the musical past. "Cherry Tree" has the sort of chorus Boney M wouldn’t have snubbed.
Speaking of cherry trees, I also rate singer-songwriter K T Tunstall, whom you may have seen doing "Black Horse and the Cherry Tree" on Jools Holland before Christmas. Strong voice, reasonable guitarist, and a headrush loop sampler pedal which she uses to create impromptu backing for herself most creatively. Patti Smith and Polly Harvey would be obvious comparisons, but rather lazy ones.
German quartet Wir Sind Helden do that rarest of things – ape Catatonia, No Doubt and Nena without sounding sh*te. Judith Holofernes is a rare axe heroine from a country where big-haired power balladeers, peerless clanky electronic music and nearly as many boy bands as we have here are more prevalent.
Finally for now, The Real Tuesday Weld combine the dry wit of The Magnetic Fields with the Flaming Stars’ bar-room swagger and a knowing appreciation of easy listening sensibilities. Their debut album sets the novel "I, Lucifer" to music and does so sumptuously.
Jeremy<br>(graysonscolumn)<br>
(Edited by graysonscolumn at 12:39 am on Feb. 6, 2005)
Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
Hiya,
Much as I appreciate the oeuvre of celebrated Stourbridge grebos Pop Will Eat Itself, I cannot let these two instances of substandard lyricism pass;
from "X, Y and Zee";
You may wonder is it how<br> a kitten may turn into a cow<br> with bells, horns, tinned corn beef<br> forest, prophets, plastic high streets
From "RSVP"
Shaking like a sh*tting dog<br> he couldn’t work it out
<br>Jeremy<br>(graysonscolumn)<br>
Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
Quote: from tooting on 3:10 pm on Sep. 19, 2004[br]graysonscolumn,
just in case there are any others who misunderstood my post, let me nail my colours to the mast.
I’m intrigued by what (and indeed whom) the Countryside Alliance thinks it’s supposed to be representing.  Their manifesto is hazy at best.  Maybe they should be clearer about what they want. Sat here in South London,  I’d say they seem to be about protecting the following values and traditions:
1.  The right to hunt and kill animals for fun.  For fun.
2.  The right to huge subsidies from a Europe they want no part of.
3. The right to farm animals so intensively that future generations will look back on them with a horror and shame similar to that with which we regard the slave trade.
4. The right to keep England not so much green and pleasant, as white, Tory and Church of England.
Now if I’m misjudging them, they’d be well advised to work better on their marketing…
<br>My apologies, Tooting; on the basis of the above I did indeed interpret your comment entirely incorrectly. Can’t argue with any of the four points you’ve outlined, particularly number, um, er… bugger it, all of them.
Jeremy<br>
Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
Quote: from Ian Davies on 10:01 pm on Sep. 18, 2004[br]Jeremy,
Have you ever been to the Holderness at Dalton Park up in that neck of the woods (usually the Saturday after the Cheltenham Festival or Lincoln Day)?
That venue marked my introduction to ptp in 1978, and, among other things, I saw Ronnie Beggan riding there an an amateur and Old Applejack – who went on to be a fairly useful handicapchaser under rules – win an Adjacent Hunts Maiden.
Since then, most of my ptp has been on the Kent/East Sussex SE circuit and, more latterly, at my new local track at Hackwood Park, Hampshire.
<br>Indeed I have, Dalton is a lovely course with good viewing, a nice atmosphere and a good-sized parade ring for a PTP course.
As may have become apparent over some of my posts I do tend to follow anything and anyone to do with the Mason / Guest franchise quite keenly, and it was primarily in that capacity that I went to Dalton in 2002, as Brancepeth employee and Red Marauder’s lass Claire Metcalfe was riding Light The River – a former Mason inmate gifted to her – in the ladies’ open. It squeaked home and I went home richer. Nice.
Old Applejack was a fave of mine over a decade ago – I think I’m right in saying he got round in the National at least once, didn’t he?
Jeremy
Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
Quote: from tooting on 1:52 pm on Sep. 16, 2004[br]There’s an obvious solution of course.
Let them hunt asylum seekers…<br>
<br>Imbecile.<br>
Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
Quote: from highflyer1 on 10:38 am on Sep. 16, 2004[br]<br>I know quite a few people who hunt and when I ask them if they would go drag hunting in the event of a ban they say "I doubt it, just wouldn’t be the same without the thrill of the kill."
Sadists one and all. Have no sympathy for them! <br>
Yep, I’ve heard this any number of times, particularly from the people I queried on the matter during my only recently-completed five years working in an intrinsically public post in rural North Yorkshire (a more hunt-saturated part of the world you could barely imagine, yet one in which – if you scratch away at the surface – a surprisingly large number of people are uncomfortable with the concept of ANY hunting continuing).
When I suggested to the pro-hunters that drag hunting would be a perfectly adequate substitute, the response was usually that it wouldn’t be the same, there’d be no kill, no random element, and besides which, the modifying of a sport in such a way would be utterly unprecedented….
…which of course it wouldn’t. Were that the case, we’d still be heading those ludicrously heavy leather footballs from the 1950s and 1960s and enjoying the head injuries they engendered. We’d still be having amateur boxing matches without head guards and wondering why so many young men still in their teens were getting really, really badly hurt. We’d still be running horseraces with wooden or concrete rails and non-collapsible hurdle / fence wings. Any riders who had not been smacked into such an immovable object after the final obstacle would then have the opportunity to force his or her mount home with a non-cushioned, hard impact whip rather than today’s more humane equivalent.
The point is this; as we have become more civilised over time, so we have felt the need to revisit numerous sports and make them safer for its participants (human or animal) and in keeping with newer / more prevailing sensibilities. Hunting has no cause to presume it can remain immune to such potential intervention for all eternity.
Jeremy<br>
Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
Quote: from insomniac on 7:33 pm on Sep. 15, 2004[br]<br> This is a liberty being removed because of class bigotry, not because of any deep seated concern over animal welfare,
One thing you can be sure of though is that if fox-hunting was the pastime of gays, muslims or jews no action would have been taken against it by our Labour bigots.
<br>Forgive me if I don’t dignify your bileous closing comment with a longer reply. However, you may be right in identifying some sort of class element to the whole affair, which is why I would not ban the ACT of hunting, merely what is being hunted.
Stopping (mostly) posh people bombing around the countryside on horseback outright – even if, as will eventually happen, they are following nothing more harmful than the trail of an aniseed-impregnated hankie – would simply be an inverted equivalent of posh people wanting boxing banning because the thought of two rough lads punching each other’s heads in is unbecoming behaviour. Frankly neither is any more or less deserving of censure than the other.
Jeremy<br>
Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
Quote: from robertylea on 6:04 pm on Sep. 15, 2004[br]
1.  What’s going to happen with the fox population – how will it be controlled?<br>2.  What’s going to happen to ex-racehorses, who may well go point-to-pointing or hunting after their career is over?  Responsibility for these animals must be taken.
<br>a ban on foxhunting will only affect the horse population, PTP calendar etc. if the members of hunts are too pig-headed to accept what is being offered, namely the ability to continue as draghunts without further censure. The likes of Mid Surrey Farmers already operates (part / all of the time?) as a draghunt, and it is in that guise that its PTP takes place every year. Simply expect to see more of the same.
If there ARE any real concerns about the fox population post-ban, I do not see why the earthstoppers, or whoever it is that drives the animals out of the ground, cannot instead develop a symbiotic relationship with their local vets – they could be employed to catch the foxes as they leave their burrows instead, and bring them to the vets for sterilisation before being released back into the wild, thereby ensuring a tempering of numbers with no death or needless suffering whatsoever. I defy anyone to tell me how this cannot work.
Jeremy<br>
Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
Quote: from Ian Davies on 3:20 pm on Sep. 15, 2004[br]Paradoxically, perhaps, I’m anti-hunting but love point-to-point, which is essentially there as a fundraiser for hunting.
You’re not alone, I also love PTPs and wouldn’t even mind commentating on one at some point in my life, but I’ll be jiggered if I’ll let anyone take that to mean I approve of what its hosts actually get up to the rest of the year.
I’m already looking forward to my annual trip up to Charm Park in Scarborough for the Stainton PTP in March, but not some of the characters / mindsets I’ll have to encounter once there.
Jeremy<br>
Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
Quote: from phunter on 3:16 pm on Sep. 15, 2004[br]<br>With many folk against fox hunting who actually go racing i don’t see this as being a good idea, if they want to protest fair enough, but they shouldn’t be involving racing with it IMO, there are marches elsewhere for this.<br>
Absolutely. The presumption that all racegoers are pro-hunting is spectacularly misguided. It reminds me a bit of that line from Monty Python’s logician sketch, “Alma Cogan is dead, but not all dead people are Alma Coganâ€ÂÂ
Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
Hiya,
Another suggestion which has been floated around the F1 paddocks recently is to have qualifying consisting of two mini-races of 10 laps each, the grid positions of which would be determined by numbers out of a hat. Whatever tyre / fuel set-up is started with would have to last the driver into the race proper on the Sunday.
Ecclestone is apparently quite keen on the idea as it seems (marginally) less of a punishment of good drivers than simply flipping the grid round such that the last in qualifying is first on the grid and vice versa. The teams are much less keen!
Jeremy
Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
