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The results section in the RP describes it as: 1.Frankel ‘cruised up to lead over 1f out, shaken up to assert final furlong’.
2. CDA ‘ridden and headed over 1f out, stayed on but readily held’.Says it all really. And I confess I spent Friday night viewing CDA videos and being just a bit terrified.
The following are Jim McGrath’s words, from an interview in 2009 about Sea The Stars. He puts the ratings business into perspective.
"We know for a fact that if we mix a pot of blue paint with a pot of yellow, we’ll definitely get green. Over a matter like this, it’s different.Hi Marginal Value, many thanks indeed for identifying yourself. Yes, your description was brilliantly apt and wonderfully perceptive. So it was amusing yesterday to read that Frankel’s lad also puts the success down to the fact that ‘Frankel just likes going fast’.
(though I suppose to Frankel, everything was a goat or a donkey
)Thats no way to talk about Excelebration
I don’t know if Frankel was boxed near Bullet Train but I did read the other day that when Frankel was promoted to a better box in the part of the yard reserved for the elite horses, he failed to settle into it and had to be returned to his old, ordinary quarters.
Maybe as he trained so intensively with BT – learning to lie up with him and not go tanking past until asked, it helped to be able to carry that familiar routine into the race.Jonibake, he’ll be fine.
Colts usually start getting pretty unraceable as they mature anyway,
and thank god he has gone whilst at the top of his game rather than on the way down. Although I agree it all seems a bit of anti climax right now.
Personally I’m already beginning to look forward to progeny-watch
Yeats didn’t look unraceable winning his 4th Ascot Gold Cup.
Countless stallions have raced to age 7,8,9, even 10 years of age. It’s not that big of a deal to race a 5yo.Sshhhhh I was trying to console Jonibake, thats all
Jonibake, he’ll be fine. Colts usually start getting pretty unraceable as they mature anyway, and thank god he has gone whilst at the top of his game rather than on the way down. Although I agree it all seems a bit of anti climax right now.
Personally I’m already beginning to look forward to progeny-watchhttp://www.theirishfield.ie/site/articl … 2357&cid=5
Quite good article on the pros and cons.
"betlarge":2zuhb7i8 wrote: I am reminded of Frankel’s ‘pacemaking’ for Rerouted in last year’s Guineas (think it was meant to be the other way round but someone forgot to tell the great horse)!
True
To be honest, I did find something slightly unedifying in Bullet Train being tugged back when Frankel missed the break. It strikes me as though that’s not really running on one’s (albeit limited) merits is it? Yesterday was all about Frankel for sure, but it would be interesting to hear the response had such tactics taken place in a lesser event.
Mike
Thats a good point actually, as far as BT’s own race goes. Fortunately it wasn’t something that was capable of disadvantaging any other runners, and CDA just cracked on in front until BT joined him a little later. I also don’t know whether IM consciously intended to slow down or whether he was simply puzzled as to whence Frankel had disappeared. I know I was!
A mate in the race, or a pacemaker, can have several roles, not just blazing off in front. He can instead control the pace by getting to the front then slowing down, and he can eyeball a front-runner and stop the jockey having it all his own way. I think that’s what the commentator was referring to yesterday, by racing alongside Cirrus he made it a bit harder for Peslier to have complete control of the pace.
Controlling the pace is OK I think, if another jockey doesn’t like it he can do something about it; interfering with another runner for the express purpose of unsettling him but without intent to benefit from it smells a bit wrong.
I think you’re right to suggest that the pacemaker can be useful in a number of ways. I guess the most obvious use is to 1) Not let the race become a tactical crawl and sprint, and 2) When the pacemaker gets outpaced its time for the main protaganist to hit the gas.
I’ve lurked on this forum for an age and have thoroughly enjoyed reading everyone’s input throughout the last few months , and certainly most people are better informed than I am, so I wouldn’t dare opiniate. However, I don’t remember seeing any horse look so happy and at ease in running as Frankel, and one poster summed it up for me in a post where they said that Frankel’s attitude screams, ‘Isn’t running fast absolutely brilliant’. Thats the picture of him that will live on in my memory, and yes, because of that I think when I think ‘greatest’ he will come to mind.
ETA. I agree with some Secretariat comparisons. Looking at the vids, he seemed to have the same sort of enthusiasm and even a similar action.
From a newbie, so please don’t flame me
: But I didn’t quite understand that remark in commentary either. Nor have I been able to quite see what BT’s purpose has been in most of Frankel’s races. I’d have concluded that he was just there as something of a comfort blanket for Frankel tbh, except for the fact that Sir Henry was certainly talking in great detail to the two jockeys pre-race yesterday. I certainly have never seen any tactics that could be unethical or detrimental to any other runners though.Actually one of the most touching moments for me yesterday was when the two horses walked back together and TQ reached over to pat Bullet Train. Nice to see the affection and appreciation for his being with Frankel every step of the way – for whatever reason.
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