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Tank, flatcap gamble knows no master.
Colin (the piss-artist formerly known as Seabird)
Thank you. Haven’t been near the lounge for years. It used to get quite hot in there.
I noticed the latest post issue yesterday. I’ve some catching up to do.
I think Bachelor’s Hall has it right but I think the “bean-counters” may be wrong. The people who go racing for the craic and the booze don’t care about the quality of the racing and would turn up if there were six Class 6 handicaps on the card.
I admit to being a traditionalist and I would love to see the Derby being returned to a Wednesday and the Cheltenham Festival back to three days.
I’m probably wrong but I think Gingertipster was making a vague reference to how racing in the UK is so dependent on the support of Arab princes and the dubious human rights policies that they have in their countries.
Recent events such as the murder of Jamal Khashoggi should be embarrassing to the hierarchy of British racing but the sport has become so reliant on the investments of these royal families that it is very difficult to see a solution to the problem (if indeed they see it as such).
It makes me very uncomfortable that we are so dependent on the involvement and support of some of the Arabian royalty.
Try this http://adrianmassey.no-ip.org/web1/pages/racsir.php
It’s free but is restricted to sires that have had 10 winners or more.
I’ve had a look at the same approach as you but didn’t persevere with it. I think that the problem is that with some sires you will have only a small sample size and you also have to take into account of the dam and dam sire.
Hope this helps.
No problem, MV, life is much too short to take umbrage at posts on internet fora/forums, the former sounds a touch pretentious for me.
Col
“Esteemed” from “the other place”???
MV, I have been posting on here for many years, admittedly under another username (seabird), I had to change my registration because the site wouldn’t let me post under my former moniker.
The reason I posted it on here is that there has always been more interest/discussion in value on this site than the other place mainly because of the esteemed Gingertipster’s advocacy of it.
I can see the value in the approach but I have always thought it was a tedious way to approach punting but each to his/her own.
I apologise if you feel I was being condescending towards the site but though I do not post on here very often now I visit daily because there can be some very interesting discussions, sadly not as many as there used, and needs, to be but I am afraid that’s the way things are going with racing forums. I will miss them when they are gone.
I have to admit I haven’t read the article fully but I did think it would give Ginge some food for thought, though I’m sure he never needs for that.
Once again I’m sorry if my post has given the wrong impression it seems that on the few occasions I do post I raise someone’s hackles.
I will try to do better.
Col
Loved watching David Goulding riding, wasn’t he known as “gypsy” for some reason, Steeplechasing?
Richard Hughes always struck me as a jockey with good hands, very good at settling a horse. Over the jumps John Francome didn’t have just good hands, he had good everything. Probably because of his show-jumping background he always looked as if he was part of the horse, not just a rider sat on top of the horse.
To come back to the topic; after watching horse racing for approaching 60 years, I’ve probably forgotten a lot of the moments but two that remain vividly in my “brain” are Shergar’s demolition Derby and the round of jumping Crisp put in when second in the National.
I had been impressed with Shergar’s win in the Derby Trial at Sandown and after being encouraged “to bet like men” by Richard Baerlein in the Guardian it would have been rude not to. On this occasion everything went to plan. A beautiful piece of training by Stoute, an uncomplicated ride by Walter and a superb piece of journalism.
I can never forget that round of jumping when Crisp treated those ‘orrible obstacles as if they were training hurdles. You could say that a cannier ride by Pitman and the horse would have won a street but then we wouldn’t have been treated to such a breath-taking spectacle.
