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i fit absolutely none of those catergories.
the others…<br>the vegetarian argument is a bit wide of the mark. these animals are BRED for consumption. the fox is wild…<br>I appreciate most animal farming is horrible ( I buy organic/free range, for taste admittedly), but there is an end result, whether you lie it or not<br>Fox hunting does not go all the way towards controlling the so called pest. If it really has to be done, then there are better ways as we all know..<br>But given that the farmers livestock is paid for by us so called townies, both at market and subsidies, then i think once in a while, we can dictate a little bit to these people what we want too…
Well for a start, the INTENTION of racing is not the death of a beast. And if some idiots cheer fallers, so what/ soem will cheer a bouncer hitting aplayer at cricket and a bad cahllenge at football. Ban those too?
Abortion is way off the mark…but in answer to your question, i would say yes. The religous nutters havent runied all our lives yet….
Its the pure killing for no reason other than fun (and the nasty chase) that offends most people…
And as for the CA ond the hunters, frankly i think that they cannot accept that they no longer rule this country and that outside their inbred little subsidised world, the world has moved on…
tahts what is really behind all of this…
there is a HUGE difference between voting rights and a crappy so called sport…
Even if the banning will "ruin" Otis Ferry’s life…
Racing’s problem – and the Countryside Alliance’s, come to that – is that, in insular fashion, they just ignore the wider public, dismissing the public as ignorant.
Spot On Ian…
There is incredible arrogance eminating from these people.
also,tearing an animal to shreds after terrifying it in the anme of sport? Lets put it this way…if it didnt exist, would it allowed to be introduced?<br>
For all those justifying this weeks "protest", I suppose you are quite sanguine with the rights of anti-hunt protesters to disrupt (legally) your revolting "sport"
The best thing about this weeks "protest" was the fact taht it was carried out by some of the people it is extremely difficult to for most of this country to have any empathy with.
A snobbish rock stars eton educated son saying his "life is ruined":angry:
Do me a favour…
for those ill informed replies…
Farming subsisdies are £5 BILLION PER YEAR
British Leyland? What? Im talking about now…
Railways? Not an industry by most definitions.
Thats a crap post Runandskip
cock fighting is popular with, shall we say, ethnic minorities…
But its not legal
And vermin? Farmers can take measures to prevent incursions, (see the independent today) but, without their usual handouts, they presumably dont…
But frankly if the foxs destroy the living of the bloated lazy scrounging whinging fat farmers…then im on the foxes side
And remeber that this goverment bailed out the scum when their filthy methods spread foot and mouth. Any other industry would have been expected to insure against such circumstances…but oh no…not the green welly brigade
The coutryside lobby should remember taht tehir industry is THE ONLY ONE THE REST OF US SUBSIDISE.
If I was Blair I would waive the threat of "no more handouts"
but i would deliver a shotgun to each doorstep of course…
tolerance?
ok then..
tell me why dog and cock fighting is banned?
At least the animals are bred for the "sport". And at least its one on one rather than mob murder…
its an old argument and i know where i sit. I perhaps would be less concerned if it didnt p**s
off the whinging, subsidised, feudal, narrow minded bores who thrust the "countryside" down our throats at every opportunityAnd before you scream, i am very moderate politically but share a much more widely spread view than the green wellies are prepared to admit
Not being a fan of times at all, i would say that sectional timing is surely more relevant than that for the overall race…
Sometimes im curious to see whther a horse really has quickened well or its the others standing still. Can be alittle hard to tell on occasions and sectional may help somewhat
Two year old races are perhaps ok too, often being truely run but beyond that pace and tactics wrecks overall time calculations for me
The pint Ian is making is that the same set up with lydia, willoghby and Robert cooper perhaps, would still be entertaining but not in end of pier 70s style
They would also bring the best out of mcGrath an perhaps francome
And I would love to see Mac trying to refer to lydia as THE FEMALE:o
barys statements about bookies not knowing about ..ahem…horses that were not going to win (and i will bring up BRAVEFOOT AGAIN AND AGAIN) had me choking on my cornflakes
I saw him at kempton today and should have given him a betfair umberella (no suggestions where please…:biggrin: )
But fair play to him…he comes on here (could have pharsed that better maybe) and doesnt hide behind dodgy shades and a camel ahir coat like so many of his colleagues
Interesting thread, but as we all know, its not necessarily the best racecourse performers who produce the best offspring
The genes have to be there of course, but, although im no breeding expert, i do recall similar excitement re Dancing Brave
Agree with Reet Hard
Its difficult for any of us to be certain how widespread it is (i suspect less so than many imagine) and I doubt whether it will be fully stamped out, but even if it was the "one race a day" that (anti-racing and excahnges) spokesman claimed, then that would be 350 odd races a year..
Does anyone believe that?:o
How many races are currently under scrutiny? Not 350, tahts for sure. 3.5 more like
And even if was the figure was correct , then that is less than I would guess 3% of the total…
I suspect theres not "corruption on a massive scale", but there is certainly a nasty problem
Value is one thing, but judgement of any runner at a longish price must include a hefty proportion of imponderables and pure guesswork/luck. Its not my game…
In manyways i am not personally a "gambler" as such but more of a punter and that does perhaps make me conservative (small c) in so far as I prefer to back runners where i feel that enough factors have fallen into place.
The value comes from putting the price against those factors, but at the same time not getting so hung up that decent punts are missed at what is perhaps not seemingly the perfect price on offer.
Nothing new there i suppose, but in terms of losing best, i think you have to think why there was a possible misjudgement and take the lessons on board.
Whats od is that he seems to think its all abit serious here
No doubt hilarity is football style insults and naughty words
Its not all serious here:angry: ..I have agood laugh at many posts
