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May 12, 2007 at 10:23 #1645
Taken from the RP:
NEWMARKET managing director Lisa Hancock has described an outbreak of fighting at the racecourse last Sunday as "frustrating", but despite blaming football fans for the violence, still plans to screen the FA Cup Final at next Saturday’s fixture.
Newmarket had hoped for a trouble-free Guineas weekend following the brawl on the balcony of the members’ grandstand 12 months earlier, but a racegoer was laid out for around seven minutes in the road outside one of the exits after punches were thrown in amelee involving 15 to 20 people.
Police had to call in reinforcements to deal with the incident that erupted after the Arsenal v Chelsea match, shown on a big screen on the Hyperion Lawn, finished, and two men were arrested for assault.
A 31-year-old London man was bailed to return to Bury St Edmunds police station on June 15, and a 39-year-old from Surrey was cautioned.
A bookmaker’s clerk who witnessed the fighting insisted it was fuelled by alcohol. He said: “It wasn’t a pleasant experience and we got out of there as quickly as we could.â€ÂÂ
May 12, 2007 at 10:49 #58852Try Worcester evening meetings this summer. They’re an absolute yob-fest.
Warwick weekend evening meetings are a close second.
Makes yer proud.
Mike
May 12, 2007 at 10:56 #58854Ladies (huh!) day or Friday in the Silver Ring at Royal Ascot is a scary place to be. Some our p**s
ed before even getting through the turnstiles & saw a mass brawl a couple of years ago after racing where the "ladies" joined in as well.May 12, 2007 at 11:00 #58856Quote: from betlarge on 11:49 am on May 12, 2007[br]Try Worcester evening meetings this summer.  They’re an absolute yob-fest.
Went to Worcester last weekend ~ I’m not going back in any hurry.
May 12, 2007 at 11:51 #58857Today’s Guardian:
Sour news from Uttoxeter’s meeting last Saturday, where our informant witnessed several fights breaking out among parties of young men, presumably well refreshed from the many bars. In common with a number of tracks, the Staffordshire venue is relucant to pay for a police presence outside its best-attended fixtures, with the result that any scraps must be broken up by whoever happens to on hand – surely a recipe for disaster at some point.
Depressing :angry:
May 12, 2007 at 13:11 #58859Quote: from betlarge on 11:49 am on May 12, 2007[br]Try Worcester evening meetings this summer.  They’re an absolute yob-fest.<br>
<br>Seconded, and cheering fallers seems a particular cancer at this track.
During my time at the Sportsman we used to divide the post-race comments into Positives and Negatives for each race. One afternoon I got so annoyed about the yobs cheering every horse that fell in the closing stages during the day that I nominated them as Negatives, as well as some horses.
Worcester definitely represents the thin end of the wedge summer jumping-wise – generally poor quality racing compared to the other summer tracks (tomorrow’s card with a couple of Class 3s being a rare exception), and some pretty ghastly behaviour if you;re unlucky.
Jeremy<br>(graysonscolumn)<br>
Adoptive father of two. The patron saint of lower-grade fare. A gently critical friend of point-to-pointing. Kindness is a political act.
May 12, 2007 at 16:33 #58861I hope this trend doen’t continue.As a lady who likes to go racing on her own I would feel very intimidated by this behaqviour.Having seen yobbish behaviour at White Hart lane years ago I vowed never to go and watch my team again.So far I have not witnessed this behaviour on a racecourse thank goodness but if I do it would stop me wanting to go in future.
May 12, 2007 at 17:41 #58862I’m not sure what racecourses can do, never been to Warwick but I come from that neck of the woods, my mates refuse to go to Warwick and go to Stratford instead due to the needless aggro in the bars. <br> The type of people mentioned aren’t racing fans at all and I think showing football matches on race days are a bad idea if this is what develops. I’d rather pay an extra couple of quid at the gate so that the courses don’t have to stoop to attracting boozy football fans to get by.<br> It looks like we are all prematurely ageing old gits.
May 12, 2007 at 18:10 #58865One afternoon I got so annoyed about the yobs cheering every horse that fell in the closing stages during the day
<br>Are you serious…surely you must have been mistaken?
May 12, 2007 at 19:34 #58866You can always come racing in Ireland, espiecially with the strenght of sterling against the Euro.
May 12, 2007 at 19:47 #58868I had a front row seat for the fight at Newmarket last year. Pretty vicious stuff; plenty of blood spilled. Kept threatening to break out again even after the police arrived. It’s ok though, everyone involved had adhered to the dress code…
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May 12, 2007 at 19:55 #58869Quote: from Gareth Flynn on 8:47 pm on May 12, 2007[br]I had a front row seat for the fight at Newmarket last year. Pretty vicious stuff; plenty of blood spilled. Kept threatening to break out again even after the police arrived. It’s ok though, everyone involved had adhered to the dress code…
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I hear the Queen is coming in Doc Martins for Royal ascot.
May 13, 2007 at 00:18 #58871what do courses want? a real racegoer or a coach party spending shed loads on beer?
As of Uttoxeter the disabled toilets near the parade ring are are only used by people doing the white stuff
May 13, 2007 at 01:09 #58872Oh, I had a front row seat for the scrap at Newmarket this year Gareth! Only had to stop my [non-fee paying!!!] passenger from jumping into the fray, so entertained by it all he seemed to be! :biggrin:
Seriously though the most amusing bit was that despite the hordes of coppers bussed in by riot van to the scene, it was the two female bobbies who were the ones grabbing hold of the culprits & slamming them up against the nearest bus…..:biggrin:
May 13, 2007 at 07:14 #58873what do courses want? a real racegoer or a coach party spending shed loads on beer?
<br>When I go racing I buy a couple of cups of coffee, no five quid burgers, no four-course meal, very rarely an alcoholic drink.
I just enjoy the action, the horses and bet.
Why on earth would a course want me to pitch up, when Kev & Darren from the Dog & Duck coach party will spend fifty quid a head on getting bladdered?
It’s the economy, stupid.
Mike<br>
May 13, 2007 at 08:03 #58875I’m not sure that the serious racegoer bothers to go racing any more or that the courses’s armies of PR and Marketing people actually want them. Such former racegoers can sit in front of a satellite TV channel watching racing all afternoon and evening and can bet by phone or online.
The courses want the casual day out people and/or families. These attract their fair share of hen and stag parties and intimidating gangs of drunks. The mobile lager vendors just encourage this and the point about cocaine use in the toilets is well made- the security staff will tell you it’s true.
Final point is the cost of going racing. Prices have been jacked up at my local Arena owned courses and it will now cost you £15 minimum to get in plus £2.50 a racecard. On a Saturday evening at Lingfield the quality of racing is rubbish ,advertised as turf but actually a mix of turf/AW, but for £25 you can watch has been entertainers like Tony Hadley and Jason Donovan. This is without paying for food and drink or a bet. All in all, an expensive day out for the family- hasn’t anyone noticed there are lots of counter attractions locally and the mortgage rate has just gone up again? People are making choices as to how to spend their leisure time and money.
(Edited by Lingfield at 9:05 am on May 13, 2007)
May 13, 2007 at 08:26 #58876lingfield, surely its only about bums on seats, why stop at lingfield, . what about ascot this year 60.000 paying £60 a time to dress up get p….d have a fight and 59.000 never see a racehorse.
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