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    wit
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    Invasor just pipped Bernardini and Discreet Cat for the title of the best horse on the planet after the unveiling of the World Thoroughbred Rankings.

    The Uruguayan-bred horse, now trained in the USA by Kiaran McLaughlin, was given a rating of 129, a pound lower than the mark given to Hurricane Run 12 months ago.

    Invasor rapidly progressed in his first season in North American and rounded off the season by beating Bernardini by a length in the Breeders’ Cup Classic in November.

    Preakness winner Bernardini was rated just a pound lower on 128 along with Godolphin’s progressive Discreet Cat.

    Aidan O’Brien’s brilliant but enigmatic English 2000 Guineas winner George Washington and Rail Link, who won a strong Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe for Andre Fabre, were close behind on 127, the same rating achieved by Japanese sensation Deep Impact and American gelding Lava Man in the older division.<br><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    <br>http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=racing/07/01/16/RACING_Rankings.html

    full list will eventually show up here:

    http://www.horseracingintfed.com/racing … section=16

    <br>best regards

    wit

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    Decent assessments from the IFHA imo

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    Tom Peacock

    "Interestingly, French mare Pride was rated the best mare or filly in the world, with a mark of 123, one ahead of British heroine Ouija Board"

    Tom seems surprised at the above , but i don’t see why he should be

    #35957
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    Seconded. It’s good to see they based their racings on merit and not on hype, which can especially be seen with their just treatment of  George W, Ouija Board and Deep impact.

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    The juveniles have left me scratching my head a bit. Halicarnassus looks too high on 116. Although the Superlative has worked out well on paper, Halicarnassus raced on the best of the ground that day and looks flattered. Cockney Rebel also looks high on 115. If he is 115, then why is Dr Brown, who beat hm fare and square at York not rated above him. The Criterium de Saint Cloud looks too high as well imo Mount Nelson and Yellowstone both having to prove they a re worth rating 117 and 115 respectively.

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    Why is OB accorded the title of "Heroine" but Pride not so? IS that patriotism or something more extreme?

    Pride, remarkably unlucky in Arc, wins Champion Stakes in a canter, HK Cup and GP de Saint Cloud. How many filly only races did Pride contest?

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    just looking  lower down the list’ and Strategic Prince looks a tad low to me on 117

    <br>Aragorn 122, mmm, couple short imo

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    Just in relation to another thread.

    It seems the IFHA don’t add anything on for ease of victory otherwise horses like Deep Impact, Pride, Descreet Cat would possibly be slightly higher

    (Edited by empty wallet at 1:45 pm on Jan. 16, 2007)

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    Quote: from wit on 12:30 pm on Jan. 16, 2007[br]>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Invasor just pipped Bernardini and Discreet Cat for the title of the best horse on the planet after the unveiling of the World Thoroughbred Rankings.

    The Uruguayan-bred horse, now trained in the USA by Kiaran McLaughlin, was given a rating of 129, a pound lower than the mark given to Hurricane Run 12 months ago.

    Invasor rapidly progressed in his first season in North American and rounded off the season by beating Bernardini by a length in the Breeders’ Cup Classic in November.

    Preakness winner Bernardini was rated just a pound lower on 128 along with Godolphin’s progressive Discreet Cat.

    Aidan O’Brien’s brilliant but enigmatic English 2000 Guineas winner George Washington and Rail Link, who won a strong Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe for Andre Fabre, were close behind on 127, the same rating achieved by Japanese sensation Deep Impact and American gelding Lava Man in the older division.<br><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    <br>http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=racing/07/01/16/RACING_Rankings.html

    full list will eventually show up here:

    http://www.horseracingintfed.com/racing … section=16

    <br>best regards

    wit<br>

    Agree with Invasor being high up, but expected George Washington to with at least equal or maybe higher than him.

    Discreet Cat is too high IMO, he still has not proved anything to me. Won the UAE derby when the two only horses to compete with him that day were ‘under the weather’ shall we say.

    Then his latest victory was what looked to a fairly weak group one, they set crazy fractions and he equaled the track record of Easy Goer, but the track was stupidly fast that day and has ridden very fast since. An average horse won over CD in the same time and wasn’t given a very good Beyer for it.

    He is on of those horses that really annoys me because he hasn’t done what most people think he can do. He has shown he is good, but only when he has had his conditions. He will probably win the DWC (the winners of that race get far more credit than they deserve) and be have the label of superstar written on his head……… but why? or am i the only one that has this opinion of him.

    and, yes it does take a lot for e to be impressed with a horse

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    Stormont

    You say  GW should be higher and Descreet Cat is too high because he’s not proved  anything

    I would say, the same applies to both animals

    (Edited by empty wallet at 2:30 pm on Jan. 16, 2007)

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    I’m with EW, there were only three decent horses in the guineas field and he was put in his place by one of them when the other had his conditions..

    I think his character as much as anything else has given him the elevated status… Oh and AOB hyping him, not that he ever did as he was at pains to point out :cool:

    Cue Jackane :biggrin:

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    Generally I think it was a year which lacked any superstars among the 3yo’s and older horses. On their day and under the right circumstances, the majority at the top of the tree were capable of beating each other, as results in the Prince of Wales, Eclipse, King George, Arc showed.

    However in terms of ability over their peers, no horse other than George Washington displayed that on his day, with the right preparation and ideal conditions he was easily the best horse in both the Guineas and QEII.

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    I thought Rail Link showed he was more superior to his peers than GW. I think his win has been somewhat underestimated, as has Pride in my opinion.

    Thought GW was the best thing about the flat season. The most disappointing was not seeing Hala Bek run again. I think we were deprived seeing a real good horse.

    #35967
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    Had Pride received a better ride I think she would have won the Arc. Had Deep Impact been fit or ridden as he usually is, he may well have beaten Rail Link. Don’t think there is any way under different tactics that anything behind GW in the Guineas or QEII could have altered the placings.

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    DJ

    The Guineas and QEII were not decent races, Rail Links Arc (as usually i) was

    Rail Link top 3 yo imhaho

    (Edited by empty wallet at 3:52 pm on Jan. 16, 2007)

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    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    In another knock for the Vodafone Derby, Sir Percy has been rated the worst winner of the Classic for some years……

    The British Horseracing Board’s outgoing chief handicapper Nigel Gray said: "At the time it looked very promising – there were horses flying home at the finish, although that can temper quality.

    "Sadly we have only seen three of the first five since, but on 121, Sir Percy falls below both North Light and Kris Kin.

    "Motivator was rated 125 last year and this is certainly the lowest in recent years."……

    <br>Summing up the rest of the rankings……the panel agreed that although there had been no absolute superstar, it was nonetheless a satisfactory year.

    Gray said: "There was no magic 130 horse this year, but there are 12 rated over 125 this year compared to eight in 2005 and six in 2004, which is an encouraging trend and several are still unknown quantities."

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    http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news … kings.html

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    …and one for dj:

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    Teofilo has been given glowing references by the European board of handicappers, with one describing him as "a monster".

    Jim Bolger’s unbeaten colt, the 9-4 favourite with the sponsors for the Stan James 2000 Guineas, was rated top of the European Two-Year-Old Thoroughbred Rankings on 123, just 1lb ahead of his great rival Holy Roman Emperor.

    Teofilo beat Aidan O’Brien’s representative both times they met, in the National Stakes and by a head in a vintage Dewhurst at Newmarket, and Irish racing’s senior Flat handicapper Garry O’Gorman expects the same to happen in 2007.

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    http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news … ofilo.html

    best regards

    wit

    (Edited by wit at 4:14 pm on Jan. 16, 2007)

    #35970
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    EW

    Rail Links Arc was no more repesentative of the best 12f performers in Europe than the QEII was of the best milers. The QEII featured the winners of the Irish Guineas, St James palace, Sussex Stakes, Jacques Le Marois and Prix de Moulin. Off the top of my head the only all-aged G1 winners that were missing were Ad Valorem and Peeress. However their form was fully represented by both Court Masterpiece and Librettist.

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