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Apparently the fixture today has had a power problem , and guess what no member of the public can attand ……but the meeting goes ahead
I can only gues Industry prices will prevail and in running punters will have the usual edge (the ones on the track in the heated corporate boxes with super fast wi fi )
Could you make it up !!!! Its ok for the horses and trainers/owners stable staff …..but no Joe Public ….aaah racing for change my goodness
Ricky
Let’s face it Ricky the markets are so weak at these meetings, with most influence coming from the high street bookies laying off, there will probably be little difference in the returns anyway, the "SP’s" are already industry SP’s in everything but name anyway.
Simple answer Ricky – don’t have a bet.
And what has Racing for Change got to do with the fact that the public aren’t being allowed on the course ?
I’d like to know why they keep running bumpers on the polytrack at Lingfield at an otherwise National Hunt meeting. Whats wrong with the grass for feck sake?
…and while I’m at it, what’s with all this 150-200 priced runners in handicaps at the all weather tracks, used to be unheard of those kind of prices in handicaps, many handicap markets are looking no different than maiden markets on the sand at the moment
True Paul , could not disagree really , Im just highlighting the desperate plight racing is in to stage this stuff , unattended by the public
Sam I dont bother at all , and if you cant se the point about racing for change and aw dross then ok thats up to you
Its a bloomin disgrace all round
cheers
Ricky
National Hunt’s obsession with the Cheltenham festival makes this next month the worst of the racing year, Ricky.
People get tense, argumentative, bleak, pessimistic. Forums are generally unpleasant places to be. On the track, you don’t know whether your selection is cherry ripe – e.g. Kalahari King, or "off" (name withheld) – and generally racing under all codes is poor until Prestbury Park;(Winter Derby trial/Newbury and Sandown excepted.)
Bread and butter racing like today’s fare gets on everyone’s nerves – e.g.your good self, Nick Luck – and the whole atmosphere resembles the restlessness of kids on Christmas Eve waiting for Santa to come down the chimney.
I’d go abroad if I had the cash, Ricky. I’d go and sun myself in Florida and Arkansas until March 15th. Anyone got a spare two grand? I’m a good payer. Well, sometimes.
lol Max , well said it must be true , I am about to head off for Vegas Until Mid April …..seriously though , why does racing have to keep shooting itself with dross like this , unattended ,unwanted , un noticed, unneccessary , and plain Ugly
Racing for change wil only work on those bright summer days when they will want us to pack into ascot or Newbury for 8 quality races at a mere 50 quid to get in
…Meanwhile back in Cold ,bleak , snow slush February its AW dross from a power failed Wolverhampton lets abandon it I say , there must be a better way forwardBet you didnt go to jumping at Southwell today
….shame MaxRicky
I’m cycling down in fifteen minutes, Ricky. Just sorting the right cap and wellies out…
Best of luck in Vegas!
I am officially envious.thanks Max , have decided to abandon the dross and Chelters too , will be playing 1/2 no limit cash with a little 2/5 mixed in , am just geting in a last rant at the idiots who run our game for letting a meeting happen without Joe Public ….
good Luck to all
cheers
Ricky
I’d like to know why they keep running bumpers on the polytrack at Lingfield at an otherwise National Hunt meeting. Whats wrong with the grass for feck sake?
On the basis most of the NH meetings at Lingfield are on Heavy ground and Heavy at Lingfield could also be read as "very sticky and gluey" they are probably doing the runners a favour by moving the bumpers to an AW surface.
If I were an owner I think I would rather have my horse have its first run on Polytrack (even with the kickback) than in cloying mud after the ground had been opened up throughout the afternoon.
On the basis most of the NH meetings at Lingfield are on Heavy ground and Heavy at Lingfield could also be read as "very sticky and gluey" they are probably doing the runners a favour by moving the bumpers to an AW surface.
If I were an owner I think I would rather have my horse have its first run on Polytrack (even with the kickback) than in cloying mud after the ground had been opened up throughout the afternoon.
Agreed. You can’t slosh through Lingfield heavy in the same way that you often can, say, Towcester heavy.
Other than that famously appalling four-runner event a few years back (two of Albert Ennis’s worst animals ever versus two just as bad from elsewhere), Lingfield’s bumper runners hold up enough numerically to justify the persisting with the exercise.
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Ok point taken regarding the bumpers, although you’d wonder how they ever managed in the old days.
Really awful markets on the all weather at the moment. Wolves a perfect example again today. Front 3 in the market mostly below 5 and 6/1, market spot on every time and the overrounds haven’t been abnormal either.
Some comments.
1) Hear hear to Cav’s point above. The basta rd offspring of Warren Buffet and Mystic Meg must advise the bookmakers on artificial surface racing. It takes away from it all somehow, though I can’t fully explain why.
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How different are the crowds at Southwell at a jumps meeting.
Never the twain shall meet. Apparently, not only do jumps enthusiasts avoid the sand contests like the plague, the sandmen wouldn’t be seen dead at the twighopping. There is hardly any common ground. Is it the same at Kempers and Lingers?
3)
A losing jumps bet hurts twice as much as a losing flat bet.
I backed a horse of Nigel Hawke’s at Lingfield who should have been suited to the heavy ground and the trip, but was beaten after a mile. The last two miles (ish) was like watching the slow motion climax of "Bonnie and Clyde." I was praying that Dennis would pull the horse up to put me out of my misery, but the horse – as slow as the slowest carthorse on the farm, bless it – was trying its little heart out even though it was too slow to get out of its own way. A 5f sprint bet at Wolver is over in 63 seconds, the jockeys often give up, you know half the battle is, like dog racing, predicting the day rather than assessing ability, and most of the time you’re already looking at the next race and you’re so used to it you feel absolutely nothing.
…Meanwhile back in Cold ,bleak , snow slush February its AW dross from a power failed Wolverhampton lets abandon it I say , there must be a better way forward
….shame Max
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