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I thought i read that Jonjo O’Neill was going to send this horse to Cheltenham so that he is fresh, i.e. no prep race before hand.
Just looking at the declarations for tomorrow’s racing, and he is down to race at Haydock in the 1.05.
Up against Special Envoy, Kasbah Bliss, Lough Derg, Cheif Dan George, No Refuge and Accordello.
Would imagine that he has too much on the rest of the field, just depends what kind of pace Lough Derg sets from the start.
He didn’t wan’t to give him a hard race but this has cut up well. As I said earlier he should win this without too much trouble unless he hits one of his dreaded flat spots at the wrong time …….then AP’s strength will be missed as there’s not a better man around for picking a horse up and getting him going again……….LD shouldn’t be allowed to get too far in front this time and can’t see him winning. If he can’t win this tomorrow he would be as well staying in his box……..he is apparantly very well and no excuses made for him.
I think he’ll be stuffed tomorrow if he turns up.. and he’s even more likely to get turned over at cheltenham.. If I was a layer I would be laying him.
Probably not until cheltenham cos Jonjo will bottle it.. Just like he did with BJK..
Jonjo bottled what man? ffs grow up you haven’t a clue what you are talking about. You know nothing of the man or the horse……..Are we talking about the same man who had over 100 winners……… 3 winners at cheltenham and the 2nd in the Gold cup or is this bottler some figment of your imagination?
You pick out one horse and slag the man typical know it all betting shop punter. If the horse gets beat he gets beat I’ll still have respect for a man who doesn’t deserve cheap jibes thrown at him. The horse is out to win tomorrow no if’s or buts about it.
I’m of to bed to watch a movie which I have seen 16 times which will be more entertaining than reading absolute and utter garbage.
water of a ducks back mate…….I’m under no illusions about Inglis Drever being one hard nut to crack something Frank Berry has already said publically…..Absolutely no sense in Jonjo going off half cocked tomorrow with the horse and throwing a 50K winning chance away. He’s well aware the horse could go to Cheltenham and get stuffed…….I took it Aragorn is saying Jonjo will have the horse stopped tomorrow or doesn’t have the nerve to take them on…….not a cat in hells chance. He has to win tomorrow to have the remotest chance of beating Inglis Drever in race which is just on 4 weeks away.You would think he was being laid out for a huge gamble. I bet the horse during the week at 6/1 for the World Hurdle with good reason…..He’s generally 5/1 now and if he trots up tomorrow he’ll be cut to 9/4 or 5/2 for Cheltenham knowing the bookies
It’s a poor renewal of the Rendlesham for me, Wichita Lineman having as good a chance as anything else, but with no real pace in the field Lough Derg could have this won half a mile out.
Special Envoy is over-rated in my eyes and rates a decent laying prospect.
Chief Dan George is slowly coming to hand and likes to come from off the pace which he did with Wichita Lineman last year at Aintree and Haydock should suit him plus he stayed on ok in the Cleeve last yeat on a track which did not suit him at all well
Chief Dan George is a place lay for me. He has never been this class IMO.
I’ll be interested to see how Wichita Lineman gets on. It’s his first time over his favoured trip with the big boys, and I for one was pleased with his run on New Years’ Day as he was staying on as well as anything up the hill and just looked a little outpaced over 2m4. I’ve got it between him and Lough Derg tomorrow, as the later will make sure it’s a true 3m.
Well, Friggo, Chief Dan George beat your Wichita Lineman in the Aintree Grade I stayers race by 4 lengths, so I’m puzzled how you don’t consider him up to the class. Aintree may suit him better, though.
I’m not persuaded Kasbah Bliss is a non-stayer.
Well, Friggo, Chief Dan George beat your Wichita Lineman in the Aintree Grade I stayers race by 4 lengths, so I’m puzzled how you don’t consider him up to the class. Aintree may suit him better, though.
Wichita Lineman does look as though he would suit a big, galloping track like Cheltenham better than the sharper Aintree circuit, but I don’t think that tells the whole story. In the Sefton it looked as though AP on Wicihita Lineman was too concerned with Massini’s Maguire, taking him on too early and cutting his own throat to allow the more patiently-ridden Chief Dan George the victory. Subsequent form has suggested that either CDG found a half a stone plus from somewhere that day, or that something didn’t quite go right for WL.
I’m sceptical about this horse’s true ability.
Touted heavily as a festival winner, he beat very little that day and has been beaten each time since. For him to be 2nd/3rd favourite for the World Hurdle is ludicrous based on achievement and is favourite tomorrow purely on hype alone. Add in no McCoy and you’ve got a dodgy proposition.
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Wichita Lineman does look as though he would suit a big, galloping track like Cheltenham better than the sharper Aintree circuit, but I don’t think that tells the whole story. In the Sefton it looked as though AP on Wicihita Lineman was too concerned with Massini’s Maguire, taking him on too early and cutting his own throat to allow the more patiently-ridden Chief Dan George the victory. Subsequent form has suggested that either CDG found a half a stone plus from somewhere that day, or that something didn’t quite go right for WL.
I recall doing some hand-timed sectionals on the Sefton last season and came to a rather different conclusion. Though it did look as though WL had cut his own throat, and that’s how they reported it in the RP, they actually ran that 3rd quarter of the race in pretty much an even pace with the other sections. I reckon that WL was simply done for toe around the sharp Aintree circuit.
Interestingly, the only other time Chief Dan George ran close to that form was around another sharpish 3m track, Haydock, in this race last year, his other 3m+ victory being a slowly run novice hurdle at Wetherby.
Though CDG hasn’t apparently been in much form this year, all his 3 runs have been on stiff galloping tracks, with his best run coming lto in the Cleeve on the track least likely to suit him. I think he will be a lot closer to Wichita Lineman tomorrow than the betting suggests
we’ll see
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