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    FlatSeasonLover
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    JohnJo I would like to see the horse race for another year no doubt, but surely GW has something to prove now after only finishing 6th? I’ve no doubt GW could win every race it competed in next year from 6f-9f (on turf :)) and surely competing as a 4yo and racking up several more G1 victories could only increase its value? (I’m no expert on breeding but seems like simple maths to me)

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    clivex
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    Johnjo

    Yes I would. Theres plenty of years to breed but not so many to race…

    #30146
    Gareth Flynn
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    And why so many (not me necessarily) much prefer the jumps

    That being the code where you actually get to see all your faves break down.

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    Monkey
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    Correct me if I’m wrong, but presumably the decision to retain Hurricane Run for another season on the track has not paid off. There’s more than just the risk of injury to contend with when keeping horses in training.

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    Quote: from graysonscolumn on 1:36 pm on Nov. 6, 2006[br]

    Quote: from Burroughhill on 8:15 pm on Nov. 5, 2006[br]<br>I love the old jumps horses that are still running at 14,

    <br>Mmmm, hasn’t it been great to see Mr Dow Jones run u[ a brace in the last few weeks, BH, and his fellow 14yo Strong Magic also still proving good enough to place?

    gc

    I couldn’t agree more! I saw Mr. Dow Jones’ last two wins and had a tear in my eye both times. That’s what jump racing is all about for a romantic like me. I think in that first win he was the 33/1 outsider of the field if I remember rightly. <br>

    (Edited by Burroughhill at 8:46 pm on Nov. 6, 2006)

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    Aidan
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    Surely if George Washington is as good as Coolmore think, then he can only go onto improve on his race record?

    I would not agree with that at all. Regardless of how good the horse is, something can always go wrong. Seeing as Hurricane Run is being mention, he looks to have simply fallen out of love with the game. After his QEII run there was never any chance of Coolmore keeping him in training, indeed probably after his Guineas win.

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    davidjohnson
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    I’m not really sure the horse’s reputation has been dented. Valid excuses for all 3 defeats and his 2 wins do show he is Europe’s best miler. The longer he races, the more his temperament will become a problem.

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    davidjohnson
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    Speaking of connections that have more to gain from keeping a horse in training. Perhaps it’s something to do with his fragility that he’s off to stud but I can’t help but think that Sleeping Indian is capable of winning in Group 1 one company. I also think Gosden will be ruing putting Alex Solis on board instead of the excellent Jimmy Mis. Thought that horse was the unluckiest of the European challengers.

    Edited to add that Fortune couldn’t ride because he was suspended.

    (Edited by davidjohnson at 9:09 pm on Nov. 6, 2006)

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    Aidan
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    The horse’s reputation needs to be restored, not protected……

    In your eyes TDK, but if we are brutally honest it is not our or the form books opinion Coolmore cares about…instead its the breeders. You can be guaranteed George Washington will be heavily supported by not just breeders but also Coolmores very own band of mares. Give Miesque Approval the title of Champion miler if you want but I suspect George Washington will command a significantly higher stud fee than he.

    And I would actually take you up on the point about team Coolmore losing on Saturday. Anyone who I have talked to was really impressed with George’s effort given that so many thought he would blow out big time. His class was there for all to see for a mile of the race and even you yourself admitted he did alot better than you expected….certainly did better than I thought he would.

    (Edited by Aidan at 9:16 pm on Nov. 6, 2006)

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    andyod
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    Miesques Approval looked like a horse with more energy than one get’s from oats. Apparently it was after changing trainers this sudden improvement was noted!<br>I don’t buy it!

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    clivex
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    The most worried about his retirement will be the poor mares

    i mean…

    Hes not exactly a gent is he?

    Females dont really like vain nutters frankly :o

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    At the end of the day George will end up a 130 to 132 horse, well down the list of champions.

    He may well have been better than that but, alas, we will never know and can only guess. The formbook, as usual, tells the final story.

    #30156
    RobinFromIreland
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    Bernardini & Henny Hughes retired.

    I’m tired of hype so George Washington never really caught my imagination. Very good horse but I will remember him more for being told how good he was, rather than what I actually saw.

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    Gareth Flynn
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    It’s funny – reading this, it’s almost as if his two year old career never happened!

    #30158
    Gareth Flynn
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    He was champion European 2yo, he’ll probably be champion 3yo and he’ll possibly top the international rankings- amazing for a horse who hasn’t done anything.

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    Sal
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    I’ve been saying the same thing for weeks, tdk.

    #30160
    Aidan
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    So George Washington has not proved he is good as Aidan O’Brien says he is….fair enough. But he has done more than enough to secure a place at stud regardless of how much people want him to stay on in training.

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