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    clivex
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    Couldnt agree more

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    roryrory
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    seconded

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    Gareth Flynn
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    there is probably more to be gained by keeping them on the racetrack

    Unless they end up dead through injury (Horatio Nelson?) or completely go at the game (Hurricane Run?).

    (Edited by Gareth Flynn at 11:47 pm on Nov. 4, 2006)

    #30130
    clivex
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    And would that bring the breeding empire to its knees?

    Come on now!

    Flat racing can feel like a sport run by and run for accountants at times

    Lowest form of life..accountants

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    FlatSeasonLoverFlatSeasonLover
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    Exactly the comments I’ve made in the George Washington thread, The Dark Knight.

    A real shame when commercial enterprise (ie making money) comes ahead of a horses racing career

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    davidbrady
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    Quote: from clivex on 11:52 pm on Nov. 4, 2006[br]Lowest form of life..accountants

    Thanks clive!

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    Artemis
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    Economics nearly always dictates the course of events.

    Where business people are concerned, it is usually the rule.

    GW is worth more at stud than on the racecourse, although what he actually achieved is not on a par with most of the Coolmore stallions in terms of versatility and high class form over 2 or 3 seasons.

    What is often remembered is the hype and a few brilliant performances. Often enough in the breeding industry to charge a very large covering fee.

    #30134
    clivex
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    Davidbrady

    Its more or less my trade too

    I should know!

    #30135
    Glenn
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    Dear Mr TDK,

    Thank you for your comments. These horses’ careers have been restricted as a result of a trading decision made by our senior traders and is not open to negotiation or revision.

    I’m sure you will understand our position.

    Love

    The Boys in Various Shades of Blue

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    GI MAC
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    Give it a rest, the Jump season has started!

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    BurroughhillBurroughhill
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    That’s one thing that is so good about jump racing. It’s not all abot money, money, money which the flat game is, certainly at the highest level. <br>I love the old jumps horses that are still running at 14, and even the flat ones still going at 8. It’s sad when you get to know a good horse, it’s at the peak of its career, and bang……suddenly it’s gone and you’re left thinking…well what COULD it have achieved if they’d let it carry on? We’ll never know.

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    johnjdonoghue
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    If he were mine, he would be going to stud at the end of the season without question. I would not take the risk of him breaking down next season.

    Burroughill, have you ever considered what COULD have happened if Galileo had not been retired and ran as a four year old. Say he had picked up an injury and had to be destroyed. We would not have got to see his progeny, which include Sixties Icon, Red Rocks and the very exciting prospect Teofilo.

    IMO I would easily prefer to see a good horse retire to stud and see his progeny race, rather than risk them running on and leaving no legacy behind them.

    JohnJ.

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    FlatSeasonLoverFlatSeasonLover
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    JohnJ surely the horse could breakdown at any age? The horse looked like it had matured physically and mentally so why would the chance of it breaking down next season be such a risk?

    He was bred to race after all so why retire him when he hasn’t realised his full potential?

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    johnjdonoghue
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    FSL,

    I think he will appeal to many breeders after his three year old career. Not sure what else he could achive running as a four year old, perhaps come out and beat the same set of milers he beat last year. Perhaps dropping him down in trip to sprint distance, though you don’t have be Einstein to see he has bags of speed to burn. My feeling is that YOUR main reason for him staying in training is to see him compete for another season, which is not the modus operandi of his owners….

    JohnJ.

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    clivex
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    And sadly thats why the feelings towards these owners (along with many others) will be ambivalent at best

    And why so many (not me necessarily) much prefer the jumps

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