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with so much racing at newmarket at this time of year, wasnt it an odd choice to move the festival there?
im not one of these anti hq merchants (although these split feilds are becoming a right drag0 and facilities there are second to none, but sandown is staging virtually nothing until december…wouldnt that have been a betterchoice?
Us spoilt sw londoners are a bit short of racing at the moment with Kempton shut too and windsor dead now…
i reckon it would have been 20000 at sandown today and the best horse would ahve won the big one…
Agree entirely.<br>A surfeit of racing planned for HQ inevitably meant that potential racegoers ,with limited expenditure available, voted with their feet.<br>Interesting that although attendances are reportedly up overall, gates for these transferred meetings from Ascot are disappointing. I still believe that going racing is an expensive afternoon out and more imaginative marketing and offers would bring racegoers in.Look at the problems top flight football is having at the moment – expensive and predictable product ,practised by overpaid prima donnas, out of reach of the general public and sold out to TV equals empty seats.<br>Also concur about the going. Different types of going on different parts of the track have been a feature at Newbury and elsewhere. York`s state of the ground, including for the transferred Royal meeting is a disgrace.
(Edited by Lingfield at 10:00 pm on Sep. 24, 2005)
How can you blame the course, it’s the jockey’s who choose were to ride
<br>And the best horse did win the QE2 today, jockey rode a superb race as he did in the Marios, trainer’s done a superb job winning the Marios and the QE2 as he did with Falbrav
True that the jockeys choose where to ride, especially at Newmarket with its wide open spaces.Was it at Newbury that Fallon nicked a fillies race by racing alone on the stands side?<br>However at some tracks the draw can dictate where you end up racing e.g. Beverley and Chester.<br>
I don’t see any excuse for Dubawi being beaten. If there was a difference in the ground on various parts of the track why didn’t the jockeys realise this? It was the 5th race on the card & there must have been some weighing room chat! If the going was too fast for Dubawi, why didn’t Rakti win? He could run a race on the A14. I agree with EW, the best horse did win.
I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysThink posters have got off the original point of this thread.<br>The state of the going won`t have any influence on the disappointing attendance!
Indeed, you’d think people would look at a thread’s title before posting, wouldn’t you?
There were probably more people at Market Rasen yesterday than at Newmarket. Charging Ascot prices and with Newmarket members having to pay to get in, there was always a chance that it would be a flop. I agree Sandown would have been a better choice of venue.
Who decided where the Ascot fixtures would be held?
With almost all the top races in the UK held in either SE England or Yorkshire, I would have liked to see some of the Ascot fixtures moved to other areas of the country.
Steve
According to Radio 5 Live the attendance at Market Rasen yesterday was higher than that at HQ.<br>Furthermore Radio 5 reckon that today’s attendance at HQ is well down on yesterday`s- not many punters in the ring.<br>On a sunny but windy day, potential racegoers obviously kept their £14-£22 admission fees in their pockets and went elsewhere.<br>Can’t really blame them.Lacklustre fare today with weak Group Races.<br>Leo wins the Royal Lodge spiking the reputations of the Tabor/Stoute and Godolphin runners.33/1 for the 2000 Guineas seems about right.<br>A humdrum sprint won at 20/1 by a horse useful some years ago for Hannon,since gelded and  running in  first time blinds (group sprinters this year only h’cap class).<br>Highspot was the 8 year old Mubtaker at odds on beating a hurdler and plodders who would be better off facing 12 flights of hurdles.<br>Uninspiring <br>
(Edited by Lingfield at 10:05 pm on Sep. 25, 2005)
Trade was desperate at Newmarket again today. It doesn’t help that the course made annual members to pay to get in, as this fixture is not classed as a Newmarket meeting – surely a discount at least should have been offered.
quality post Clive , I agree entirely , am really glad the meaness of Newmarket has been picked up by other forumites , as Im sure all and sundry are sick of me droning on about overcharging and misery guts cources
Carry on Newmarket management, you will empty the rowley mile course eventually , and yes why dont you add another 4 nights to the July Friday night gigs . to hell with racing , thats far too boring and unprofitable
R :o
MArket Rasen is not all that far from Newmarket – many casual racegoers might have found the competitive card at MR more to their liking.
This was an Ascot fixture which happened to be run at Newmarket. Financial decisions would have been made by Ascot, not the Newmarket management.
richard<br>
Thanks Ricky…hope all is well with you :)
Even if not Sandown, Haydock or goodwood would have pulled in the numbers.
Baffling….
With so many able to watch all the races on Satelite TV, I’m not suprised atttendance sometimes are low. Particularly as Newmarket have a no. of big Saturday racing days. Many will go to a few and not all. <br>As for Newmarkets facilities being second to none, I presume you haven’t been to York. It’s different gravy. The new stand at Newmarket is a joke, you could fit about 4 of those in the York stand and I bet it wasn’t a 1/4 of the price.
Let’s face the fact that racing is not a cheap day out. However, it’s a lot cheaper than watching ManU or Chelsea play. I think sport generally is an expensive way to fill in an empty day. All the more expensive for being in a country that believes that all premium entertainment should command a price only affordable for the few. A family day out at the races would cost the average family £100+. Too much money i’m afraid.<br>As for Newmarket, it seems that all of Ascot’s top rescheduled meetings have had lower than normal attendance figures. The KG at Newbury as an example.
Stow
I went to york this summer and was not overly impressed…
So what if its bigger?
As for telecasts, betting information, and ease of movement, newmarket wins hands down. York may have more bars…but tahts about it
And if you like to see the paddock and pre parade ring…well theres no comparison frankly. Yorks paddock is a disgrace frankly and not easy to get to and from
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