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- February 16, 2015 at 00:19 #751094
It has taken me a very long time in my life – far too long, frankly – to finally learn how to consistently make my betting profitable.
And it has only happened because I have been lucky enough to meet and learn from some very clever people.
None of those very clever people has ever shown the remotest interest in writing a book or doing anything to make their edges widely available to the public and tbh, now I manage to make the game pay on a more modest scale, the idea horrifies me too.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"February 16, 2015 at 01:24 #751095Some of you lot don’t half moan.
February 16, 2015 at 05:57 #751096Isn’t it high time subscribers had pictures in HD quality?
February 16, 2015 at 07:44 #751106Some of you lot don’t half moan.
Fully justified when you pay £22.50p a month subscription.
They claim 100% profits go to racing but how much wastage along the way with all these "experts" and "pundits"?
And all these bookmakers reps be given airtime is sickening when they wont even lay a bet
February 16, 2015 at 07:49 #751107It has taken me a very long time in my life – far too long, frankly – to finally learn how to consistently make my betting profitable.
And it has only happened because I have been lucky enough to meet and learn from some very clever people.
None of those very clever people has ever shown the remotest interest in writing a book or doing anything to make their edges widely available to the public and tbh, now I manage to make the game pay on a more modest scale, the idea horrifies me too.
Are you seriously trying to tell me James Willoughby is all talk and doesn’t put into practise what he preaches?
And that if he did he would be living in a cardboard box within a few months?
And that he’s not known as Professor Hindsight for nothing?
I find it all hard to believe.
February 16, 2015 at 08:12 #751108Some of you lot don’t half moan.
Fully justified when you pay £22.50p a month subscription.
They claim 100% profits go to racing but how much wastage along the way with all these "experts" and "pundits"?
And all these bookmakers reps be given airtime is sickening when they wont even lay a bet
I think RUK do a very good job with their coverage on the whole. If I have a complaint it is that there isn’t a regular, weekly "Sunday Forum" type discussion programme, I’m not keen on their Racing Breakfast programme. Their live raceday coverage is excellent and I do like their Mark Your Card programme as well. I’d like to see more preview programmes.
I don’t understand why we need to see bookmakers reps, the odds and market moves are all we need.
Is it worth £22.50 per month? Well, everyone will have their view on that. Personally I think it’s very steep but I pay it.
I don’t mind Nevison. It’s the likes of Hannity I can’t stand. Could be worse at least RUK don’t employ Mick Fitzgerald, Bob Cooper etc like the utterly awful ATR do. If ever either of those two join RUK that £22.50 is staying in my bank account.
February 16, 2015 at 08:49 #751111I think James Willoughby at least tries to be "alternative" and look for new ways of analysing races.
Whether he supplements his media income with successful betting or not, I have no idea.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"February 16, 2015 at 09:13 #751112I think James Willoughby at least tries to be "alternative" and look for new ways of analysing races.
Whether he supplements his media income with successful betting or not, I have no idea.
Oh, I thought you knew when you wrote –
"I think the perennial problem is that those who REALLY know what they are doing when it comes to betting don’t want to share their secrets and edges for a relatively derisory TV appearance fee.
So these programmes tend to attract those who, well, need the TV appearance money because, tbh, they are not THAT great at betting".
February 16, 2015 at 13:52 #751140It is all in the word "tend."

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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"February 16, 2015 at 13:54 #751141And "think" – which has a different meaning to the word "know."

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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"February 16, 2015 at 23:26 #751197One day there will be a racing channel which shows racing from every racecourse, with on screen betting shows leading up to each race but, best of all, no sound whatsoever.
No presenters, pundits, or commentators.
Bliss.

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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"February 17, 2015 at 02:06 #751207One day there will be a racing channel which shows racing from every racecourse, with on screen betting shows leading up to each race but, best of all, no sound whatsoever.
No presenters, pundits, or commentators.
Bliss.

It is available now ( though not admittedly on a single channel), just adjust your volume switch.
There is no sport and no channel which does not produce carping criticism from the audience. Just be grateful you can watch every race through the day. When I started betting a dodgy sound relay was the best one could get, Saturdays apart.
This forum breeds serial grumblers.
February 17, 2015 at 06:42 #751211It is available now ( though not admittedly on a single channel), just adjust your volume switch.
There is no sport and no channel which does not produce carping criticism from the audience. Just be grateful you can watch every race through the day. When I started betting a dodgy sound relay was the best one could get, Saturdays apart.
This forum breeds serial grumblers.
With respect seepigeon that sounds as if it could come from someone who is on the gravytrain

While we’re used to RUK neglecting the horses both in the paddock and going to post even when covering only 1 meeting another good example of their poor performance was at Carlise yesterday.
After AP’s win in the final race we were told that is what the crowd wanted and had come for and that he would get a tremendous reception in the unsaddling enclosure but did we get to see any of this?
No, a few adverts and a round up from Tom & Mark in a box but not a sight of AP returning and his tremendous reception.
Compare this sort of crap coverage to what occurs in Australia & America. Couldn’t see them neglecting a record breaking jockey like that, could you? What was the excuse?February 17, 2015 at 09:53 #751218In general I would be all for backing the no pundit idea.
As for yesterday it is hard to argue that they didn’t miss a trick in showing any post-race shots.
Presenting from a booth conveys zero atmosphere. It just doesn’t work. I know Mark Howard has a disability but does that mean he has to sit down all day and does it also render him immune from presenting paddock side?
February 17, 2015 at 10:04 #751219One day there will be a racing channel which shows racing from every racecourse, with on screen betting shows leading up to each race but, best of all, no sound whatsoever.
No presenters, pundits, or commentators.
Bliss.
Ah yes, nowt but the neighing, clippetty-clop and crack of the whip, not necessarily in that order: music to the ears
I think you too are of that blessed certain vintage who’d recall ‘Sounds of the Seventies’: that nightly feast on Radio 1 featuring Bob Harris, John Peel, Alan Black, Anne Nightingale and Pete Drummond. The latter’s show became known as ‘Pete Drummond’s Sequence’: two hours of music with the only words spoken by a zombiefied Drummond being artiste, album and track before the toon played
Boring seemed to be the consensus and it was dropped quite rapidly. I loved it
February 17, 2015 at 11:51 #751226You seem obsessed with age, Drone.
Actually I cannot remember any of those thing you listed – that will be my Alzheimer’s kicking in no doubt lol – and I live in the 21st century and overall consider it far superior to the 20th.
But yeah, as stated by others, I do tend to use the mute button a lot while watching racing on TV.

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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"February 17, 2015 at 11:57 #751228One day there will be a racing channel which shows racing from every racecourse, with on screen betting shows leading up to each race but, best of all, no sound whatsoever.
No presenters, pundits, or commentators.
Bliss.
Ah yes, nowt but the neighing, clippetty-clop and crack of the whip, not necessarily in that order: music to the ears
I think you too are of that blessed certain vintage who’d recall ‘Sounds of the Seventies’: that nightly feast on Radio 1 featuring Bob Harris, John Peel, Alan Black, Anne Nightingale and Pete Drummond. The latter’s show became known as ‘Pete Drummond’s Sequence’: two hours of music with the only words spoken by a zombiefied Drummond being artiste, album and track before the toon played
Boring seemed to be the consensus and it was dropped quite rapidly. I loved it

Drone,
Try Radio Paradise – http://www.radioparadise.com/rp_2.php#name=Home – diverse range of music and so laid back!
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