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  • #2742
    The Market Man
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    The BBC crew are now crowing about Shirocco being the best horse in the world. Why? Ok Shirocco is unquestionably one of the best middle distance horses in the world but it seems to me the fact that Shirocco beat Ouija Board with conditions in Shirocco’s favour has suddenly got Balding and Persad dribbling.

    When Shirocco beats Hurricane Run (so far hasn’t) and this years Derby winner and the best of the Americans at this years Breeders Cup then fine Shirocco would deserve to be called the best in the world but right now, no.

    #72773
    Aragorn
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    HR is the best middle distance horse in the world, without doubt. He’s a monster of a horse, providing he gets there he’ll win the Arc again unless visindar turns out to be a monster as well…

    #72774
    prince regent
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    <br>i agree about hurricane run i think hes the better beast<br>i dont think shirrocco was that impressive today and the 2nd and 3rd hold the form down

    but in awnser tot he question  as to why they go over the top

    probably becuase they have nothing to say  and three minutes to fill up

    #72775
    FlatSeasonLover
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    I thought Fabre said he thinks that Shirocco may improve past HR this year.

    #72776
    clivex
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    This makes me think of Steve Mellish who i was watching on RUK last night

    Not because he goes over the top but quite the opposite. Also he is so incredibly quick that he seems to be able to completely weigh up a race with a minute of them passing the post

    Although he can sound like a amphetimine addict with a mouthful of crisps, he tells you exactly how it is without hype or silly sentimentality. Nice sense of humour too

    Class act :)

    #72777
    Arazi
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    They made similar comments when Rakti won at the Royal meeting a couple of years ago. He was being crowned the best 1m 2f horse in the world.

    They do tend to go over the top.

    #72778
    PAULCS
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    <br>Everyone on here has had their dig in the past and rightfully so but nothing changes as I just thought the whole coverage was weak overall again.

    – Alexandrova was one of the most visually impressive Oaks winners you will ever see yet Jim McGrath made it sound as exciting as a Southwell claimer.

    – When the Beeb show a form guide, it makes you cringe when you hear how Ian Bartlett’s commentary has been dubbed for races they didn’t cover.

    Worst bit of all was cutting to a helicopter camera during every race just before Tattenham Corner – How are we supposed to watch from up there?<br>

    #72779
    The Market Man
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    Quote: from PAULCS on 10:41 pm on June 2, 2006[br]

    <br>- Alexandrova was one of the most visually impressive Oaks winners you will ever see yet Jim McGrath made it sound as exciting as a Southwell claimer.

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    <br>I thought that. Surely the Beeb can find a better commentator from somewhere? Peter O’Sullevan must cringe. Jim McGrath would’ve made Shergar’s ten length saunter sound mundane.

    #72780
    Meshaheer
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    The helicopter view is hacking me off already. The Beeb and CH4 will be doing satellite shots from outer space next.

    #72781
    davidjohnson
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    To be fair to Aussie Jim, he’d used up his superlatives of the day on Ouija Board who ‘ran the race of her life’ to beat Enforcer half a length.

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    PAULCS
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    <br>I’ve got nothing against JM personally but for me one way in which you can tell who is a great commentator (which you should be to get the Beeb job) is when you can recall their commentaries when looking back at great races.

    Everyone remembers the peerless Peter O’Sullevan-

    – Nijinsky’s King George<br>- Dawn Run’s Gold Cup<br>- Desert Orchid’s Gold Cup

    Even Simon Holt was brilliant during Best Mate’s second Gold Cup and Moscow Flyer’s second Queen Mother although he did mess up big time in at the end of this year’s 2000 Gns.

    With JM though, I’m racking my brain but nothing great comes to mind at all.

    #72783
    ToneLoc
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    Most memorable JM commentary?

    Some random race at Happy Valley in the late 80s while Michael Palin whilst going Around the World in 80 Days. I think Philip Robinson rides the winner.

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    Zorro
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    The best horse in the world is Deep Impact.

    #72785
    Prufrock
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    Thank you for your well-reasoned argument, zorro. :)

    #72786
    guskennedy
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    Quote: from PAULCS on 11:02 pm on June 2, 2006[br]Everyone remembers the peerless Peter O’Sullevan-

    – Nijinsky’s King George<br>- Dawn Run’s Gold Cup<br>- Desert Orchid’s Gold Cup

    Sean Magee, in today’s Guardian, recalls O’Sullevan’s commentary on Shergar’s Derby: "He’s only in an exercise canter!" But did the great man commentate on that race? If he did, I’ve never heard it. Graham Goode called the race for C4 and Peter Bromley for BBC Radio and I’ve not heard any other commentary. I do recall O’Sullevan on Nijinsky’s King George where he referred to that horse winning in a canter and I wonder if Magee’s got the two mixed up with each other.

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