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"Skinhead yobbo"
Does this mean:
All skinheads are yobbos<br>All yobbos are skinheads<br>Some skinheads are yobbos<br>Some yobbos are skinheads
You interpreted my words as you wanted to, not as I meant.
Was quite fond of Sta-press, check Ben Shermans, Harringtons and knee length DM’s myself around the time Dave and Ansell Collins were rambling on about a monkey spanner and I frequented the kop at Hillsborough. Never had my beautiful auburn locks shaved off though, far too vain as my ears would take on the appearance of taxi doors if I did.
Soon lost interest in football, fashion and yoof gang mentality though still fond of ska/rocksteady/reggae.
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(Edited by Drone at 1:23 pm on Sep. 23, 2006)
Ya bin too many time wid da pussy clot rudie:biggrin:
Take my point! Sorry for misinterpreting youir words…I am in agreement with most of what you are saying….just the wisdom of saying certain words in certain company out of manners.
(And I just hope to God there are no west Indian women here!)
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Please explain the use of the term Cricket in conjunction with the phenomena known as Geoff Boycott.:biggrin:
In seriousness though I used the yorkie bar reference and stereotype to see how many people would bite.
This thread is demontrating racial preconceptions. No surprise to see moslems topping the list, and it is profoundly untrue. The whole racing community where we live eat regularly at a friend sBangladeshi retsurant,. The lads come racing, and we all have the sharpest banter and they have a terrific sesne of humour and people cannoy wait to get there aftrer racing…trainers, owners, jockeys, p2p people. Though the food is good we go because theses lads are an great comics. Every moslem …evem the most devour…have a great sense of humour and it is jsut different,….hard to actually grasp for people not used to it. They sometimes see our humour as spiteful, lowest common denominator and juvenile.
One lad, Johnny Welsh, would be a great stand up comedian. He has just opened his own restaurant. He is very devout moslem. He will chastise anyone…usually with a needle sharp wit… for showing disrespect for women, and women therefore love him.
One of his stories which has everyone in hysterics (to the point where you have to ask tourself is he actually quite mad) concerns his alleged cpature by aliens in the middle of the afternoon in maindee in newport. he insists the story is true. The part that makes me laugh most is when he says that the spacecraft now are not like they were in old films and their technology has developed far beyond that and they obviously are using the same designers as IKEA.
One of the most popular and intelligent tv comdey series of late was The Kumars at number 42 and its predecessor. Mainstream moslem comedy….and hilariouys…popular with all sections of society.
So we suddenly turn round and beleive moslrms have no semse of humout vecasue some danisg idiot chose to depeict Allak looking eveil armed with weapons? That is not funny, is crass, and was intended to cause offence.
Wonder how Yorkshire church people would feel about a cartoon depicting Geoff Boycoott with a crucifix up his ass or something? I can’t think of an example better because i haven’y got that spiteful vibe in me. I detest it when I see it. I never liked it when I was a kid and other kids used to laugh at someone when they fell and broke their ankle. Laughing at other peoples expense …especially when at the expense of their God…the same God as ours…is not funny.
I agree that some elements go OTT in their reaction….but actually while I do not feel anything for that kind of violent knee jerk reaction which is just as intolerant of our culture of freedom of expression, I do feel that the cartoon was insensitive, and feel more for those millions of moslems who said nothing but were deeply hurt and caused to worry about how they are percieved by the west .
I didn’t see Sheikh Mohammed burning Danish flags, but he would have been just as insulted by it. And you know he has a good sense of humour…he must have to put up with the antics of that upstart Italian as a jockey.:biggrin:
And so yes…normally I would never insult yorkshire people …and certainly wouldn’t now with really harsh humour based on their grumpy, tight, chauvenistic, uncouth percepetions of which they are sometime seen….usually based on the likes of Harvey Smith and John Prescott. Why? because I know that is not true….and all cultures have such characters. Some of my best friends are yorkie bars:biggrin:
One icident at deauvlle racecourse I can tel you about. The hat man and I and a sculptor were setting up our stands. French people do not go to the races until ten minutes before the first. They will be in restaurants before that. british people are the only people you see at deauville before that…sometimes wandering around wondering why the bars aren’t open at 11 a.m.
The hat man Graham said…here come some more brits. Hurry up Dave, get that last picture hung they are making a bee line for your tenet. By then I could hear they were from Yorkshire, and quite loud. So I said to Graham…"don’t be daft….the main bloke is from Yorkshire. He will come into into the stand, walk up to the biggest oil and say "HOW bloody much? and moan openly about the french being a rip off because he will assume us french and not be able to follow what they are saying."
He did exactly that and Lucien and Graham were in hysterics. Sometimes people do live up to their stereotypes sadly. HOWEVER….to prejudge all yorskshire people with this idea would be wrong.
Many of my best friends reall are yorkshore folk….and they are all different and individual and apart from the accent you wouldn’t be able to apply any of the other negative things to them.
And I would never use words or behaviour ….normally… that they told me they found insulting.
Quote: from roland on 3:11 pm on Sep. 23, 2006[br]this cricket loving yorkshire man!!:biggrin:
Oh joy Roland, a soulmate at last.
Fine knock by Darren Lehmann the other day. Shame he didn’t add a couple more runs to equal George Hirst’s 100 year old record; or perhaps not seeing as GH was actually born within the Broadacres.
Drone.<br>My father in law would make a mockery of my yorkshire cricket loving statement as he close to makes a religion of it and i’m sure would make a much more worthy soulmate!<br>though being a true gent and unforgiving sort he now has no like for the afore mentioned Mr Boycott.
In my squaddie days with bouts of homesickness after a tour i would head back to my home city on the train. The "welcome to York" sign always made me smile, with the York part being a giant Yorkie bar with the "ie" bitten off.<br>Not so sure where they are made these days though.
I find myself feeling quite envious at your diverse group of friends GGD, your dinner parties must be like the united nations.<br>
Someone who once came to dinner with us in Paris aftrer racing at Deauville said the same.<br>In a single day they met Pawnee, Texan cowboys, Czechs, Russians, Germans, Malayans, Irish, Japanese, Argentinians and Chileans. <br>The horse world is a worldwide village.
Please remember that gambling is a tiny part of it. First and foremost it is about horses, and you can learn so much from other cultures. Particularly where horse psychology is concerned.
Someone else described a dinner in the Czech republic we held as being like the bar in Star Wars.
I enjoy immensely learning from people of different ways of life, and yes it is interesting.
You forgot toadd the americans to your poll.
they would get my vote as they do not like being made fun of at all.
Yes Bigmazey, I did overlook the Yanks but there were only so many groups I could list. <br>And besides, I wouldn’t want to stir anyone up now would I ? :wink:
Quote: from roland on 8:34 pm on Sep. 23, 2006[br]<br>In my squaddie days with bouts of homesickness after a tour i would head back to my home city on the train. The "welcome to York" sign always made me smile, with the York part being a giant Yorkie bar with the "ie" bitten off.<br>Not so sure where they are made these days though.
<br>Roland
Yorkie Bars along with Kitkat, Aero and Milky Bars will shortly be the only brands left that are manufactured at the old Rowntree factory in York, now that parent company Nestle have decided to ‘outsource’ the manufacture of Smarties and other brands to Hamburg and, apparently, the Czech Republic.
It will only be a matter of time I’d imagine until Rowntree’s is closed completely and York becomes cocoa-free, following the closure of Terry’s last year.
The sugar beet refinery is also to close, so the once familiar scent of Chocolate Oranges drifting up the nostrils on a southerly breeze is already history and that of stewing beets on a northerly breeze soon will be.
So York will become increasingly reliant on wedge from tourists. Long has been in truth.
Going back to earlier in the thread where there was a discussion about whether the word ‘squaw’ was offensive. A 2yo filly of Clive Cox’s has been exported to the US and renamed Onida because the trainer Carla Gaines deemed the original name offensive to native americans.
I was so much older then and several furlongs up myself
Green Green Desert’s tenure on TRF was memorable if brief. Is Mr Dent still flogging his artefacts?
The ghostly Grasshopper wrote ‘my dog has no nose’
Drone asked ‘wie riecht er?’
The vapourised Grasshopper replied ‘schreklich!’Nicely done all round…
I rather preferred him to the other two rats who were always bragging their self-importance and were downright moody. He was a slightly better grape – but I don’t really know – just an intuitive guess.
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