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    steveh31
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    Chester have cancelled their May meeting as the city centre course is too open to be able to stop crowds gathering, which other courses would not be able to do meetings behind closed doors.

    Doncaster would not as it is common land and very open.

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    Avatar photoDrone
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    York is similar to Doncaster, if anything more open with only the last furlong or so enclosed by the stands and the entire infield being common land, bar the small course enclosure opposite the stands

    Racedays see hundreds of non-paying locals congregating on the rails and wandering around the course, something I do myself quite regularly

    So, until the ‘two’s a crowd’ restrictions are lifted any thought of resuming racing there ‘behind closed doors’ must surely be a non-runner

    The Dante meeting hasn’t been officially cancelled yet but bookings for it have not been permitted for several weeks, and the preparatory groundworks usual from around now have been conspicuous by their absence

    #1487307
    steveh31
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    The racing post says the plan is that Newcastle and Lingfield will stage day after day meetings and the jockeys and trainers will stay in hotels to avoid travelling around.

    Not sure how that works for the horses though.

    #1487309
    apracing
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    Epsom also has the issue of common land. Newbury is now a housing estate with a racecourse in the residents back garden.

    To me, it would seem logical to concentrate on tracks that are not adjacent to housing, such as Bath, Salisbury, Goodwood, Newmarket July course, Chelmsford, Nottingham.

    Not so sure about the northern tracks, but I remember Ripon as being well outside the town, ditto Carlisle.

    #1487310
    chestnut
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    Would it not be impossible to stop people wandering over the heath at Newmarket to watch the racing?

    #1487314
    Avatar photoCork All Star
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    Beverley is quite a walk from the town if I remember correctly.

    #1487318
    obiwankenobi
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    Could the racing at Cagnes Sur Mer work as an example. We’ve had runners here and the
    trainers take a small select group to the course, stay a couple of weeks and run their horses.
    It is not ideal for large numbers of horses/ trainers and there would have to be balloting of some
    description as to who can run where (and owners being willing) but it might get something up and away.

    #1487319
    Avatar photoDrone
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    Would it not be impossible to stop people wandering over the heath at Newmarket to watch the racing?

    Can’t speak for Newmarket Heath but if they tried to cordon off the Knavesmire in order for racing to take place then the existing somewhat ambiguous feelings that many of York’s residents have about ‘the races’ would cease to be ambiguous and the always-bubbling-under animosity surface in no uncertain manner

    In any case there are ancient laws regarding access to and freedom-to-roam on common land that are distinct from municipal parks: closure of the latter is at the discretion of local authorities, but not the former which would in all likelihood require a Government Act

    Ripon is indeed a couple of miles from the town centre

    Personally I think it highly unlikely that racing will take place again until other professional sports are also given the go ahead to resume. To plead ‘special case’ or whatever will only cause much pissed-offness in other sports who would rightly claim ‘why aren’t we a special case too?’

    #1487320
    steveh31
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    Most other sports are contact sports which makes it difficult for them to restart even behind closed doors, the most likely sports to restart are Golf, darts, horse racing, possibly tennis, f1 and athletics.

    Football, rugby, cycling, boxing and basketball all have to hope the social distancing is reduced.

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    Snooker

    Blackbeard to conquer the World

    #1487331
    Richard88
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    I’ve been to Ffos Las a few times and still have no idea where it is so I’m sure you could stage meetings there and not worry about too many people turning up.

    #1487332
    Louise12
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    Is there really animosity to the racing in York, Drone? What is the reason – behaviour?

    #1487338
    Avatar photoDrone
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    Animosity is probably too strong, annoyance would be better; from the type of resident who moans about the ‘bloody tourists’ flocking to York; those who complain they can’t get to Tescos on racedays because Tadcaster Road is gridlocked; or those who, in this case with some justification, complain about rowdy behaviour apres ski

    I’d imagine it’s pretty much the same wherever the racecourse. Locals can be a tedious bunch

    Me, I just feel privileged to live near a splendid racecourse on the outskirts of a splendid city

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    I would have thought that Goodwood should be relatively straightforward to hold a meeting behind closed doors, at least from the point of view of keeping the public out. Brighton would be out of the question however as the course is practically in the town

    #1487348
    clivexx
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    I think racing could go ahead with an audience before other sports and stuff what others think

    A limited crowd of annual members only maybe? It’s easy to distance at racing compared with football which is knackered for a very long time to come (which many of us find a little bit amusing)

    County cricket could work too

    Formula one is not a sport and should be banned permanently just for the hell of it

    #1487353
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    If the County Championship matches were held behind close doors would anyone notice the difference? 😉

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    York has announced that the Dante meeting is cancelled. That is the main Derby trial gone.

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