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- August 27, 2007 at 20:27 #112647
I don’t think there’s a great deal of evidence to support the notion that Frankie is a liability at the moment. He, like most jockeys, makes mistakes. His mistakes are highly scrutinized because of who he is.
Frankie IS a great jockey. His acheivements and status in racing prove this. Fallon is an incredible talent. Unfortunately, his legacy has already been tarnished by what he’s done out of the saddle. Lester nearly suffered the same fate.
Frankie, on the other hand, has been a fantasic role model and his jockeyship has only been eclipsed by his integrity.
August 27, 2007 at 20:54 #112649it’s all publicity with dettori, he was at musselburgh once and all these kids were surrounding him and he didn’t even say thank you, his face was miserable as sin, although he must get bothered a lot a smile doesn’t take much effort, but when there are cameras around he’s all fall it, what does that tell you
August 27, 2007 at 21:03 #112650it’s all publicity with dettori, he was at musselburgh once and all these kids were surrounding him and he didn’t even say thank you, his face was miserable as sin, although he must get bothered a lot a smile doesn’t take much effort, but when there are cameras around he’s all fall it, what does that tell you
It tells me he’s false and self indulgent. I’ve heard must be tens of stories very similar to yours.
He likes to be the big "I am" he’s a show off.
I’ll probably get slated by the pro Dettori brigade that ride the media driven train, but I don’t care I have thick skin.
August 27, 2007 at 21:27 #112654I don’t really get the opinion that Frankie’s self indulgent, sulky, etc. I’ve come across him many a time on the track, including also leading up horses he’s ridden, been involved with presentations etc and I personally haven’t found him to be anything other than friendly and courteous. Everyone has their off days though I guess – and can everyone here say they bound around the office on a daily basis with a big smile & friendly greeting for everyone? At the end of the day, the racecourse is his office and some days every jockey is going to be on a downer, the same as we all have off days at work.
August 27, 2007 at 21:55 #112658I don’t really get the opinion that Frankie’s self indulgent, sulky, etc. I’ve come across him many a time on the track, including also leading up horses he’s ridden, been involved with presentations etc and I personally haven’t found him to be anything other than friendly and courteous. Everyone has their off days though I guess – and can everyone here say they bound around the office on a daily basis with a big smile & friendly greeting for everyone? At the end of the day, the racecourse is his office and some days every jockey is going to be on a downer, the same as we all have off days at work.
Yet a camera comes and his whole demeanor changes. If that isn’t false I don’t know what is.
August 27, 2007 at 22:07 #112661Frankie Dettori is second favourite for BBC Sports Personality of the Year because he rode one winner who no one outside of racing can remember the name of. I think that firmly suggests that he carries this ‘star billing’ that has been talked about. It’s just a shame he doesn’t really give a toss any more.
And talking about jockeys with a charisma bypass, has anyone heard a post-race interview with ‘The Next NH Champion Jockey’ Tom O’Brien? Painful.
August 27, 2007 at 22:37 #112664I’ve seen Frankie, on many more good days than bad, and will not forget the time and encouragement he gave, to a bunch of youngsters, on a Sunday at the racing school.
August 27, 2007 at 22:44 #112666You miss my point Flash – I’ve come across him several times off camera, even on a wet Wednesday at Yarmouth, and he’s been friendly & courteous. I’m no stranger to the racecourse either.
August 27, 2007 at 23:35 #112670The times I’ve met Frankie off camera, he’s been extremely pleasant. That said, he does get more excited in front of it.
Not everyone likes that, and it’s easy to get irritated by such self-indulgent displays of exuberance. Yet I still strongly believe that Dettori’s Magnificent 7 in 1996 was the best thing that’s happened to the sport…in my lifetime.
August 28, 2007 at 04:28 #112677The thing is that racing is a sport.
If you compare it to the sport with the highest public profile, football, would you ever want it to go that way?
Football is big because the whole team situation inspires yob culture – I dont think that will ever be racing’s appeal (although god knows they are trying).
I think a figurehead that appeals to the younger members of society would be a great bonus to the sport. They are trying to establish Michael Owen as one, but I think that can only happen if the yard is very succesful. Which lets face it, a lot of those set-ups are’nt.August 28, 2007 at 08:36 #112682We have personality personified here in Noel Callow. He must go through a fortune in goggles – every time he wins a race he throws a pair to the crowd who go wild. (He’s won 74 so far this season)
It doesn’t even matter even if he’s not on the favourite, if he hits the front the crowd go berserk and they are not renowned for getting carried away about anything here. Callow has certainly added his fair share to the atmosphere here.
and is super talkative to the media even if he has lost.August 28, 2007 at 08:37 #112683The times I’ve met Frankie off camera, he’s been extremely pleasant. That said, he does get more excited in front of it.
Not everyone likes that, and it’s easy to get irritated by such self-indulgent displays of exuberance. Yet I still strongly believe that Dettori’s Magnificent 7 in 1996 was the best thing that’s happened to the sport…in my lifetime.
Frankie is brilliant! He’s always been nothing but co-operative and helpful whenever I’ve had to talk to him, be it here, Dubai or Australia. He’s great for the sport.
August 28, 2007 at 09:00 #112684If Ryan Moore, Jamie Spencer, Tony McCoy were nominated for Sports Personality of the Year would they win, would the public vote for them over other sport stars.
How many times has McCoy quite rightly been nominated and never won.
August 28, 2007 at 09:57 #112694No jockey has ever won the BBC sports personality of the year award, which tells its own story.

It is a sad indictment that Royal princesses (surprise, surprise!), who also happen to be mother and daughter, have eclipsed the likes of McCoy and Dettori in this annual awards charade.
Incidentally, Formula 1 racing drivers have won the award most times.
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August 28, 2007 at 10:00 #112695Odd how some peoples dislike of Dettoris personality has to be linked into his riding talents. Of course mean moody, half psycho Fallon must be a genius because that is what they are like
Dettori can get on your nerves but hes definately good for the profile of the sport.
Much better for the image of the sport to have champagne flying around in the paddock than a court case
August 28, 2007 at 12:35 #112714Odd how some peoples dislike of Dettoris personality has to be linked into his riding talents. Of course mean moody, half psycho Fallon must be a genius because that is what they are like
Dettori can get on your nerves but hes definately good for the profile of the sport.
Much better for the image of the sport to have champagne flying around in the paddock than a court case
Frankie has had more than champagne flying around Clivex. It would be nice if you could give a balanced opinion once in a while….
JohnJ.
August 28, 2007 at 13:21 #112723Where is racing’s equivalent of Wayne Rooney, Freddie Flintoff, David Beckham, Lewis Hamilton even John McEnroe or Alex Higgins. Where is racing’s version of Robbie Williams whether you like Robbie or not he gets people talking.
When was the last time you picked up a Sunday Newspaper and saw papparzzi pictures of a jockey, the current jockeys avoid publicity and when they get on tv are so shy or moody and just wanna get away racing needs someone who falls out of a nightclub drunk or takes the odd illegal substance but can still get on a horse and ride winners the next day, where is the good guy who everyone likes and wishes to be.
This is all soooo daft.
When’s the last time someone saw Lewis Hamilton falling about drunk the day before a grand prix?
Or the time that David Beckham was a drunkard … or dopehead?
As others have said, the sport is about the horses and it’s the horses that get people talking. A jockey’s job is to help the horse run to his ability, not to show off onboard.
So, the jocks aren’t going to get the limelight that they’d get in a human sport.
Steve
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