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    Avatar photoThe Ante-Post King
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    Haven’t got one.

    Thats because you cant just bet one horse! :yahoo: The biggest certainty is More of that so long as Black Hercules doesn’t join him in the RSA. B-)

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    I’ll know my fate by the first race it’s all about Min in the Supreme Novices. :rose:
    Hope you’re right about More Of That TAPK :yahoo: That’s where the 2nd Mortgage is going.

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    mine is too Trip but the other way round have laid Min big time!! EEEEeeeeeeeeeeekh!! B-)

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    OMG Raymo…we will know soon enough which of us will be camping out Tuesday night…brrrrr :whistle:

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    Min does seem to be the marmite horse of the festival.
    I’ve got him in small doubles and trebles although half of those went pop with Faugheen.

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    I hate Marmite Nath Eukh !!

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    Seeing as probably 90% of ante post accas went out the window with Faugheen, I’d say Min will be a very attractive price on the day. All the bookies will be trying to get him and also try attracting new business on the opening race. I wonder what Paddy Power will do this year. If Min is spoken about in the same breath as Vautour and Douvan then anything over 5/2 on the day would be a gift….

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    Haven’t got one.

    Thats because you cant just bet one horse! :yahoo: The biggest certainty is More of that so long as Black Hercules doesn’t join him in the RSA. B-)

    “One horse”! That’s rich coming from someone who’s already backed four non runners in the Gold Cup; eight bets, four to win and four to place (each way). ;-)
    My guess is the no-shows (money lost) – and therefore total staked on the Gold Cup – means the price you’ve taken about Cue Card is ruined; reduced to the equivalent of around 7/2. :cry:

    My only bet in the RSA is More Of That Gord. If Jonjo can get him there in top form he’ll win, Black Hercules or no Black Hercules.

    Do you think Jonjo’s horses that haven’t been seen for months will again miraculously return to form on the big day. :whistle:

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    Douvan is a cert, but unbackable at the price

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    If someone is really going to put the mortgage on anything, then Douvan is the one. But that’s not on the list.

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    Haven’t got one.

    Thats because you cant just bet one horse! :yahoo: The biggest certainty is More of that so long as Black Hercules doesn’t join him in the RSA. B-)

    “One horse”! That’s rich coming from someone who’s already backed four non runners in the Gold Cup; eight bets, four to win and four to place (each way). ;-)
    My guess is the no-shows (money lost) – and therefore total staked on the Gold Cup – means the price you’ve taken about Cue Card is ruined; reduced to the equivalent of around 7/2. :cry:

    My only bet in the RSA is More Of That Gord. If Jonjo can get him there in top form he’ll win, Black Hercules or no Black Hercules.

    Do you think Jonjo’s horses that haven’t been seen for months will again miraculously return to form on the big day. :whistle:

    Yo are becoming a right cocky Bugger our Ginge….You wouldn’t dare talk to me like that 5 yrs ago..Anyway I always forgive you!You are quite right about Jonjos horses miraculously coming into form.Johns spirit is on paper the best handicapped horse of the meeting.If ‘Village Vic beats him on 10 stone worse terms then I aint the legend I have slowly become over the years. As for Cue Card being a 7/2 shot!! I dont really care so long as he wins. :yahoo:

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    I’ll be surprised if More of That gets within 10 lengths of No More Heroes, who should hack up. Black Hercules will do well to get round. More of That not the safest of jumpers, either imo

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    Well my largest bet is a Yanworth and Thistlecrack double put on a few weeks back. However beginning to think Thistlecrack could get beaten. Certainly too short now

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    I’ll be surprised if More of That gets within 10 lengths of No More Heroes, who should hack up. Black Hercules will do well to get round. More of That not the safest of jumpers, either imo

    More of that will beat ‘No More Heroes’ in a canter Joe around Cheltenham.No question pal..Just like Cue Card will beat ‘Vautour’..albeit in a battle this one.Oh and Saphir du rheu will float past ‘Thistlecrack’ on Good ground too.As for Yorkhill God knows where he runs but he’ll win whatever race he turns up in.

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    I’ll be surprised if More of That gets within 10 lengths of No More Heroes, who should hack up. Black Hercules will do well to get round. More of That not the safest of jumpers, either imo

    I also think that the “serious” form for the RSA comes from Ireland. More Of That didn’t beat a single chase specialist in his two starts over fences. Sametegal won a very weak Greatwood handicap at Newbury. That doesn’t count much. The only disappointment is that Outlander is not in the race, since I think that he would be easily next best horse in that race. Despite the 3 miles.

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    I’ll be surprised if More of That gets within 10 lengths of No More Heroes, who should hack up. Black Hercules will do well to get round. More of That not the safest of jumpers, either imo

    I also think that the “serious” form for the RSA comes from Ireland. More Of That didn’t beat a single chase specialist in his two starts over fences. Sametegal won a very weak Greatwood handicap at Newbury. That doesn’t count much. The only disappointment is that Outlander is not in the race, since I think that he would be easily next best horse in that race. Despite the 3 miles.

    That sounds more than a bit convenient to me Ruby.
    More Of That gave 3 lbs and beat Sametegal easily by 13 lengths. Call it a beating of 16 lbs
    Semategal then wins the Greatwood off a mark of 143 and now has a mark of 149. Depending what figure you want to take:
    143 + 16 = 159
    149 + 16 = 165

    May be Samhoweveritsspelt ran below the Greatwood form against MOT, but even if 10 lbs below form… would still mean MOT has an excellent chance considering what’s usually needed to win an RSA, especially when he’s almost certain to improve considerably for both experience and trip (like he did over hurdles). MOT is 5 from 5 at Cheltenham… And unlike No More Heroes is proven on good ground. Have my doubts about the Elliott horse on goodish ground, if it turns soft NMH has a chance. Biggest negative is Jonjo’s current form, if the trainer was in good form MOT would be 6/4.

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    That sounds more than a bit convenient to me Ruby.
    More Of That gave 3 lbs and beat Sametegal easily by 13 lengths. Call it a beating of 16 lbs
    Semategal then wins the Greatwood off a mark of 143 and now has a mark of 149. Depending what figure you want to take:
    143 + 16 = 159
    149 + 16 = 165

    May be Samhoweveritsspelt ran below the Greatwood form against MOT, but even if 10 lbs below form… would still mean MOT has an excellent chance considering what’s usually needed to win an RSA, especially when he’s almost certain to improve considerably for both experience and trip (like he did over hurdles). MOT is 5 from 5 at Cheltenham… And unlike No More Heroes is proven on good ground. Have my doubts about the Elliott horse on goodish ground, if it turns soft NMH has a chance. Biggest negative is Jonjo’s current form, if the trainer was in good form MOT would be 6/4.

    That race with More of That beating Sametegal 13 lengths was just a match. There were only 3 runners with one unseating before halfway and the Nicholls stable had ZERO form at that time. That’s why I’m still unconvinced about MOT and I also hate it when trainers start talking about Festival bankers or best horses they have ever trained and so on.

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