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  • #93300
    ACR1
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    Ian/Ricky/David,

    I’m sorry I missed this the first time I read your post –

    "PS: Ojne of racing’s other tradtions I lkied but am too young to remember was the colourful tipster Prince Monolulu of ”I Gotta Hoss!” fame who was, err…BLACK. "

    In my book that’s the equivalent of claiming you are not racist because you enjoyed the Black and White Minstrel Show.

    Are you seriously putting up Prince Monolulu as a role model for young, black people in Britain today? You think that circus act is a tradition worth persevering with? As far as I can tell, the man was a figure of fun at British racecourses and was a safe, non-threatening stereotype people could laugh at.

    As for not answering any of the arguements you made, there’s no point.

    #93301
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    Ah, Golden Cygnet weighing in with his usual threats of violence and well considered opinion.

    #93302
    runandskip
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    wish i hadnt started this thread now lol. so much for free speech.<br>typical of this country as a whole.you express an opinion and then get wrongly accused of racism by someone with a one tracked mind and a very large chip on the shoulder.<br>i still stand by what i said… if we want young people  to get hooked on watching racing then have horses with theses unattractive arabic names wont help.  

    #93303
    stevedvg
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    i still stand by what i said… if we want young people  to get hooked on watching racing then have horses with theses unattractive arabic names wont help

    Unless those young people happen to be Muslim.  

    Steve

    #93304
    turtle
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    Quote: from runandskip on 5:52 pm on May 7, 2004[br]i still stand by what i said… if we want young people  to get hooked on watching racing then have horses with theses unattractive arabic names wont help.  

    <br>Unattractive to whom exactly?  Personally,  I find names such as Nashwan, Unfuwain, Erhhab  and Muhtarram,  rather mellifluous, certainly compared with the  spate of ‘Sharon’s Lady’ and ‘Kevin’s Lad’  type English names that appear each year.

    #93305
    runandskip
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    look at the stick thommo gets on this forum. if he was black im sure some pompous liberal would accuse us all of being racist:biggrin:  

    #93306
    stevedvg
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    look at the stick thommo gets on this forum. if he was black im sure some pompous liberal would accuse us all of being racist  

    Rishi Persad gets some stick here without it ever sounding racist.

    But then again, no-one has suggested that, due to his skin colour, he’s turning people off racing.

    The might say that about his interviewing technique, but not his skin colour.

    Steve

    #93307
    hoofski
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    My first horse racing memory, at the July meeting 1953, was seeing Prince Monolulu in all his finery. Ostrich feathers on his head and scuffed loafers on his feet. Not so much shock and awe, more like gobsmacked. I can’t remember anything about the Races though. Have since read his biography and thouroughly enjoyed it.

    #93308
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    Ian,

    I’ll try to simplify this. Let’s say an Irish bloke dresses up as a leprachaun and stands outside racetracks in the UK shouting "Oi have a horse!".

    Now let’s say you are accused of being anti-Irish. In your defence you say "I can’t be. Don’t I like that Irish bloke who stands outside race courses dressed as a leprechaun. Sure isn’t he a much loved extrovert who is part of the scenery of British racing?".

    Would that satisfy your accusers? I don’t think so – especially if they happened to be Irish. All I’m saying is that if the best example you could think of to bolster your case that you didn’t have "an ounce of racism or bigotry in you" was Prince Monolulu, you were better off saying nothing.

    Your point about McCrirrick is irrelevant as he’d be as deserving of riddicule no matter what his skin colour.

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