March 24, 2002 at 11:27 #4176Colin LittleMember
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Funny that Escorial, I was going to post a similar "name the non-trier" thread about the Doncaster meeting. Loads of half-fit ones there!
I’ll offer BAHAMIAN PIRATE (D.Nicholls/A.Greaves). Certainly not trying very hard on Saturday.
You could probably make that comment about a fair number of Nicholls runners at Doncaster. He did the same thing last year as well. Seems to get away with getting them fit by running them at the races.
He has also got some decent cast offs this year, I’d been interested to see how far he can get WATCHING’S handicap mark down, ability-wise, I still think that horse is close to group class.March 24, 2002 at 12:02 #98998DJMember
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ESC- any chance of you letting us know when these are running…..for the lazy ones like me ?!!!March 24, 2002 at 12:21 #98999paul101Member
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Looks like G Butler is after an easy mark for this one.
SENTINEL 9  3-9-0 V Slattery 11/2: 06: <br>- Dwelt & al bhd: op 4/1: rtd higher 718 (debut, polytrack).
SENTINEL  3-8-7 V Slattery 20/1: 8: <br>- Bhd, rdn/mod hdwy: op 12/1, Hector Protector colt. <br>March 24, 2002 at 17:20 #99000guskennedyMember
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Rainbow High drifted alarmingly in the market on Saturday and – surprise, surprise – was never put in the race at any stage. It’s all very well the stable stating that his main target is the Chester Cup once again but I thought that he still had to be ridden to obtain the best possible placing in any races he takes in on the way.March 24, 2002 at 17:49 #99001BenMoreMember
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Good observation on Georgia Peach Escorial. How did the Peach jump? For that is probably the reason he ran since this was his first run over hurdles I believe. The winner had a race over hurdles in Ireland. I think they were about equal on the flat with D.Weld Both should win again this season.March 25, 2002 at 08:50 #99002raymondoMember
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:cheesy: Did’nt anybody else watch NORTON in the lincoln???<br>Surefire winner next time out!<br>Good luck.:biggrin:March 25, 2002 at 15:17 #99004Gearoid VIMember
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Nothern Nymph is crying out for 1 mile. The trainer knows it . They are expecting him to win NTO over 8f but yet he is entered this Thursday over 7f ! Boggles the mind !March 25, 2002 at 15:46 #99005
Someone mentioned Bahamian Pirate.I followed this one for a while last year and he is a tricky customer who is hard to win with.Personally I don’t back horses trained by Hannon or Nicholls and avoid Mark Johnson.March 25, 2002 at 16:15 #99006johnny boyMember
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Don’t know whether the stats would back me up, but I’m always interested when a Mark "always trying" Johnson horse takes a big step up in distance.March 25, 2002 at 16:39 #99009Soba1Member
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Prescott is the man to watch stepping his horses up in distance.
Regards non-triers, to echo the D Nicholls comments, Continent was so tenderly handled, he has to be of interest for something like the Wokingham. Regards Bahamian Pirate, I’d wait until the autumn for him just like the last two years.March 25, 2002 at 18:32 #99011paul101Member
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Hi Esc, just like to update Sentinel’s last run comments from Superform.
5th btn 5L 38+ <br>754 SENTINEL 3  3-9-0 S Carson (3) 16/1: 065: <br>- Stdd start, bhd, late gains under kind ride, nrst fin: qck reapp: caught the eye under tender handling, expect significant improvement in h’caps over further. <br>March 25, 2002 at 18:32 #99012
Does anyone remember the big fuss about Prokofiev at Aintree about a year and a half ago.A couple of weeks ago imagine if Rith Dubh had been beaten at Cheltenham there would have been uproar-the jockey didn’t touch him with the stick.Down To The Woods at Ascot last summer was ridden from behind without being hit he looked unlucky but it was probably his best run last season.<br>Yesterday I happened to see the meeting at Nad El Sheeba and that horse Grey Memo put in an amazing performance he was dropped out in last place and looked like tailing off only to finish like the fastest thing on four legs.<br>I certainly don’t dispute we have more then our fair share of non triers but sometimes they are reasons for a horse getting tender handling.March 26, 2002 at 15:03 #99013remittance manMember
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Luke, Down To The Woods has never been a non-trier; his poor runs last season were due to viral and/or bleeding problems.
He wasn’t knocked about at Ascot that time because he didn’t need to be: with a clear run he’d have won very nicely.
A talented horse whose problems presumably remain unsolved, given that connections let him go for Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£12,000 after yesterday’s canter in a Wolverhampton claimer.March 26, 2002 at 16:36 #99014SmithyMember
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Well Sentinel has been given a handicap mark of 52 – impressive considering he is bred to be a bit better than a selling plater. Hats off to Gerard Butler – does this not represent a good bit of training (if I was an owner I would want to give my horse the best possible chance of winnng). The trouble with this case is, if everyone has seen it he’s not going to be much of a price next time out is he?March 26, 2002 at 17:45 #99015
Remittance Man if you read my post again you will see I am not suggesting he was a non trier.
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