February 22, 2012 at 09:38 #21064
Continually spouting on about consistency but how long is finishing in the top 4 and playing Champions League each year without winning a trophy good enough for a club like Arsenal?Member since March 2008February 22, 2012 at 21:55 #393066Marginal ValueParticipant
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Before Wenger, Arsenal had a 12% strike rate as champions of the top league in English football, if we are kind enough to take it from when they last renamed themselves in 1914. With Wenger they have a 20% strike rate. In the FA Cup it is 6% strike rate before Wenger, and 27% since he has been in charge. Just what is good enough for a club like Arsenal? Is there someone better available?February 22, 2012 at 22:43 #393081
Wenger’s strike rate in the past 7 years on winning trophies is 0%, imo in those 7 years he has taken the club backwards in terms of what they achieve on the pitch. The squad there now is not a patch on the quality of the early 2000’s Van Persie aside and maybe Wilshire and Ramsey.
and before his latest outburst, it was an attack on Liverpool by saying Arsenal fans are lucky they could support L’pool.
Ok Arsenal have been in the CL 16 years in a row but what counts the most is actually winning the thing, Liverpool 2005, remember that Arsene. Would Arsenal fans swap this consistent qualify for that comp every year for playing in it say 2 in every 3 on average and but maybe winning it?Member since March 2008February 23, 2012 at 11:58 #393155sberryMember
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How many times have Liverpool won the Premier League – answer is less than Blackburn, is this good enough for a club like Liverpool?
Probably is actually as apart from a lucky win in Europe Liverpool have not been top table material here for over a quarter of a century.
Arsenal and United are the consistency, Chelsea bought their success but are now fading, City will do the same, others like Spurs will have brief periods of pretension but nothing will change the fact that football here is Arsenal and United.
Liverpool will however outdo all others in self-inflicted controversy, that is their speciality.
Wenger has a long range plan for Arsenal and is not afraid to stick to it even if it means some barren years that are nevertheless the sort of barren years that other clubs dream of.
Some people look at the bigger picture.February 23, 2012 at 22:25 #393291
What plan is that, Make the side weaker ever year?
According to reports it is plan B soon anyway as the board are supposedly given Wenger 100 million to spend this summer.
That’s probably the amount even if Van Persie decides to follow in Fabregas footsteps.Member since March 2008February 29, 2012 at 16:55 #394203jbaleParticipant
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How many times have Arsenal won the Champions League…? Answer is less then Nottingham Forest, and why? Cause Arsenal have no backbone and always fall at the last hurdle.
We remember last season exactly a Year ago the Gunners were beaten 2-1 by Birmingham City at the final hurdle which led as a catalyst to the spiral downfall of Arsenal,
In 2006 after leading through Sol Campbell once again Arsenal failed to show their backbone and lost thanks to a Goal in the dying minutes (Arsenal’s best and only chance thus far to win the champions league)
Liverpool have not been a consistent football side over the last 20 years in the Premier League but at least when we get to a final we show up and take the trophy home.
consistency is not only qualifying for the Champions League but getting to the final and as we know Arsenal have only reached the final once in their whole history.
The great invincible side of 2003/04 now retired or moved-on will never be matched again by Arsenal; as Arsene is afraid to splash the cash. You sell one of the best attacking midfielder’s in the world with World cup and Euro championships medals and sign Mikel Arteta a player who would’nt get into Chelsea/man city/man utd/liverpool/tottenham starting line-ups (the same goes for metersacker and santos).
Your signings happened on deadline day but yet Arsene should of known for at-least a year that Fabregas would go and yet failed to short list replacements… the same situation with Nasri.
If Arsenal fail to achieve champions league football next season it would be very hard seeing RVP stay at a deteriorating club and this would truly spell disaster for Arsenal as RVP has scored over halve of Arsenal’s goals this season.
Out of the ‘Big Four’ Arsenal are the longest waiting for success… How much longer will you be waiting for?August 2, 2012 at 08:46 #408669
This will make you laugh, Wenger now lambasts sides on spending big money on players. The tight fisted git makes a good point and I agree with oh hang on it takes a team to sell players at high prices for a team to buy at them. Who sold Anelka around the 98 season for over 20 million Monster money at the time and now wants 20 million plus for the one season wonder who has no time left on his contract and wonders why the money in transfers in crazy the bloke needs to open his eyes.Member since March 2008August 2, 2012 at 12:01 #408689sberryMember
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There has been nobody in the history of the game more knowledgeable and adept at the transfer market than Wenger.
Rangers yesterday, Pompey tomorrow, just a matter of time till one of the big Premier league teams folds, hopefully it will be United if the Glazers up their asset/cash stripping of it, perhaps Liverpool if they continue to pay £35 million for unwanted ineffective clothes horses.December 1, 2012 at 17:05 #421383
What an embarrassment.
Di Matteo gets the sack after winning FA Cup and Champions League whilst Arsenal stick by this old has-been.Member since March 2008December 11, 2012 at 23:43 #422519
Where’s SBerry these days?Member since March 2008December 12, 2012 at 05:13 #422536Pat123Participant
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Who’s going to be the first one to come on saying it doesn’t matter because it’s only the League CupDecember 12, 2012 at 14:07 #422613
Reading between the lines Wenger tried making out if was of little importance, however his team selection would of told you otherwise. Any Arsenal fan who cant see Wenger has taken his club backwards is wearing tintercles.Member since March 2008January 8, 2013 at 18:33 #425694
From Daily Mirror.
Read my 1st post on this thread, I said it last season and will say it next season aswell. Of course it could be a calling cry to the likes of United, City, Barcalona etc to join the likes of Toure, Fabregas, Vieria, Van Persie, Nasri, Henry, Ashley Cole etc to stand a chance of winning some silverware or as the tintercles would have you believe ‘the money grabbers’…..Member since March 2008February 22, 2013 at 20:52 #430234
Arsenal fans moaning about Wenger are a bit slow out the gates I put this thread up a year ago. Even sberry has lost the faith…..Member since March 2008March 1, 2013 at 23:08 #430936Marginal ValueParticipant
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Nathan, could you not pay someone to join the thread to argue against you. In reality, Wenger is still a great manager, and is being undermined by the in-fighting on the board. It’s the board who keep selling the great Arsenal players, did you really think Wenger wanted to sell all those terrific players??!! It’s just the board wanting the capital income from selling them, and a low wage bill that leaves top players knowing they can earn more money elsewhere. Wenger is doing a great job while the likes of Kronke and Usmanov pull the rug from under his feet at every turn.
I know you don’t need this sort of prompt, but if you feel at any time that it’s not worth the candle to post on here, I am prepared to goad you for a small fee.
I hope Arsenal do really well this season. My dad is a big fan. I have rehearsed lots these conversations with him.
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