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    elgransenor1
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    Should be a very interesting battle between two hugely promising novice chasers in peddlers cross and sprinter sacre.

    assuming both stand their ground of course. i’ve backed the henderson horse as some of his leaps at donny were breathtaking and you get the impression with his huge, long stride, that he could just two fences in one go let alone one.

    peddlers cross of course is a massive danger to be given the utmost respect, but so far he’s not been put under any pressure with his jumping, i’m hoping that the pace sprinter sacre will go will force some errors at the business end.

    menorah I can’t have at all as even the trainer doesn’t seem to know whether he’s a hurdler or a chaser, and theres an air of desperation about the way they are campaigning him now.

    as far as for non stop is concerned, and his proximity to the nicholls 2nd fav for the arkle last time, in al ferof, I think it was more of a case of people overrating al ferof than for non stop having any aspirations to be a superstar.

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    Lone WolfLone Wolf
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    Should be a very interesting battle between two hugely promising novice chasers in peddlers cross and sprinter sacre.

    assuming both stand their ground of course. i’ve backed the henderson horse as some of his leaps at donny were breathtaking and you get the impression with his huge, long stride, that he could just two fences in one go let alone one.

    peddlers cross of course is a massive danger to be given the utmost respect, but so far he’s not been put under any pressure with his jumping, i’m hoping that the pace sprinter sacre will go will force some errors at the business end.

    menorah I can’t have at all as even the trainer doesn’t seem to know whether he’s a hurdler or a chaser, and theres an air of desperation about the way they are campaigning him now.

    as far as for non stop is concerned, and his proximity to the nicholls 2nd fav for the arkle last time, in al ferof, I think it was more of a case of people overrating al ferof than for non stop having any aspirations to be a superstar

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    It’s very easy to be over analytical with regards to some of these Arkle contending performers. Al ferof has done nothing wrong to concern his backers in my book. Captain Chris showed last season that sometimes things can change quickly at the business end of the season. He was beaten twice against Ghizao, and also once by Medermit. He never actually registered a win last season until beating Adams Island over 2m 4f.

    #383852
    elgransenor1
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    yeah but I think this year is a much hotter renewal of the arkle. for me last years was a weak version by comparison with what this one is squaring up to be.

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    Lone WolfLone Wolf
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    It’s considered hot because Al ferof amongst others is a contender. I’ve not backed him ante post myself. You could well turn out to be right. I just wouldn’t read a great deal into his last race. Infact if i were to i’d be impressed by his performance. In the years i’ve watched racing, which isn’t many compared to others on here, i still don’t see why people are quick to call something a very weak or very good renewal. Often it can be difficult to know how good a renewal was until we apply heindsight. Even then there are often only 2 very good horses to take from any race we look back on.

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    deeman
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    #383886
    PantsPants
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    Agree with above, mightily impressed with SS, the way he attacked his fences was a sight to behold, think he’ll have the beating of PC.

    #383890
    dusty919dusty919
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    Sprinter Sacre for me as well, it’s no secret how highly both Henderson and Geraghty rate this horse, and from such a strong stable, it’s a great indicator of how good SS is. Thought he was the best jumper of fences out of the Arkle principles as well.

    #383981
    elgransenor1
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    sprinter sacre is certainly the one of the three at the front of the arkle betting that i’d actually pay to go and see.

    he’s really exciting the way he attacks his fences if donny is anything to go by. have a look at one of the fences in the home straight and he clears it with several feet to spare, breathtaking. horses like that are the reason I follow horse racing in the first place.

    The worry though with sprinter sacre is that he’s a free-going sort, and as was alluded to on the betfair forum, there must be a concern to how much he’ll find in a finish, that if it comes to a fight he might curl into a ball.

    certainly peddlers cross is the sort of streetfighting type who would expose any weaknesses in that area. he’s clearly tough to beat and has only lost twice under rules.

    kempton in any case will tell us a lot more. personally I feel that sprinter sacre will come out on top, but if peddlers cross tracks him and outbattles him in the straight, we might as well throw away any ante-post vouchers on the henderson horse for cheltenham. if he can’t beat peddlers at a sharp track that should play to his strength he probably can’t beat him anywhere.

    but my feeling is that he will get the better of peddlers. I know peddlers is already a very warm favourite for the arkle but I just have an opinion that he won’t prove as good over fences as he was over hurdles. my gut feeling before he even jumped a fence was that he wasn’t that big and not the great chasing prospect that many make him out to be.

    so far both his runs have amounted to glorified schooling sessions where he’s jumped economically, without exactly taking the breath away i.e. sprinter sacre, but kempton will be the real test for him as sprinter sacre will put the utmost pressure on his jumping, at speed.

    as for al ferof, I get the sense that he’s slightly overrated, he didn’t look a natural on his chasing debut, he dived at some of the fences early on, and the supreme kind of fell into his lap after cue card, sprinter sacre and spirit son all got into a fight early on. just an opinion though.

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    HurdygurdymanHurdygurdyman
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    Please let there be at least 4 or 5 runners and have a proper race is my first wish. No decision has been made on Menorah and Alassi is entered in a winnable mares only hurdle race the same day, While Harry Hunt has an easier entry at Taunton a couple of days later.

    I have no worries at all about Sprinter Sacre curling into a ball if it came to a fight. He’s had a couple of scraps in his younger days and handled himself well.

    Neither do I believe it will come to a fight.

    Sprinter Sacre has one of the highest cruising speeds I’ve ever seen in a novice hurdler and looks every bit as relaxed over fences. I have doubts about Peddler’s Cross keeping up with him and maintaining his composure. It’s easy jumping when you dictate your own pace but jumping fence to fence with a horse like him is an entirely different thing

    These fences are as stiff as they come one mistake can be very very costly.

    Sprinter Sacre’s jumping at Donnie was spectacular , accurate and so fast a seasoned chaser would have trouble lying up with him if he stepped up 1/2 a stride which he probably will here.

    If I’m wrong I’m wrong but I can’t see Peddler’s Cross even making a race of this. Not round a sharp track like Kempton and I think Donald is nuts even running him there.

    Him finishing second in the Champion Hurdle had a fair bit to do with speed but more to do with the ability to maintain a gallop longer than most imo.

    I doubt if they will want to head to head with Spinter Sacre from the outset, that would be a very dangerous thing to try and it’s more likely they will hold Peddler’s up.

    The way I see it is if Sprinter Sacre jumps like he did at Donnie he’s going to be gaining lengths on PC at every fence and at some point he’s going to have to get within striking distance.

    Even if he can, he’s still got to get him off the bridle and find the toe to pass him.

    Huge huge ask of any novice around IMO

    Sprinter Sacre

    with ease

    #384266
    Getzippy
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    Although I greatly respect the betting prowess of HurdyGurdyBurdy, I am going to defy logic and oppose our resident tipping doyen.

    I’ll risk Peddlers to teach Sprinter Sacre a thing or two and to break him before the 2nd last fence.

    Zip

    #384297
    HimselfHimself
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    Both exciting novices, but I take Peddler’s Cross to outstay Sprinter Sacre in an intriguing clash.

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    #384309
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    Please let there be at least 4 or 5 runners and have a proper race is my first wish.

    With only 3 runners, and just 13k to the winner, I’d doubt connections of either of the principals see this as anymore than educational, and wouldn’t dream of having a bet in it.
    However, I do think the sharp track will be against Peddlers Cross, and his best chance is to try and force it. Even then, I believe he’ll be up against it, and if he can’t win tomorrow, he’ll have little chance in the Arkle.

    #384310
    thehorsesmouththehorsesmouth
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    You could look at it another way Reet: if Sprinter Sacre can’t win at a ‘speed’ track like Kempton, what hope has he at Cheltenham :?:

    #384316
    Anonymous
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    Same applies, thm, just hope they go at sufficient pace to prove it.

    #384317
    thehorsesmouththehorsesmouth
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    Merely playing devils advocate Reet :wink:

    Agreed, we’ll learn nothing if it’s run at a crawl. Peddlers Cross’ jumping was dynamite on his previous two runs, hopefully he can do it at a faster pace.

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