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November 22, 2021 at 20:42 #1568613
Not quite everyone – I am strongly in favour of vaccine passports!
I’d quite like to bring in passports for just about everything tbh – if only to annoy the civil liberties brigade who only actually care about their own civil liberties.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"November 22, 2021 at 20:50 #1568617Ginger look at bars restaurants and nightclubs in England majority not using vaccine passports and starting to get back on there feet.
As said before where the science for vaccine passports there is none
Covid is likely be with us for rest of our lives so every winter do we have these restrictions in
This about keep the unvaccinated away are you saying those who can’t take the vaccine for medical reasons can never go to a nightclub or a Football match ever again. Because someone who is exempt from vaccine can cause the same effect then someone who not want to get vaccinated
Look at Pete parada story a drummer for offspring who was advised by doctor not to take vaccine what happened to him got fired from band because he follow advice from his doctor. So your message all those who are exempt from vaccine got to stay home and not have a life no more they never go to a sports event or a nightclub again because this not going away anytime soon. what about the mental health for those who can’t take the jab on medical grounds being told sorry guys you got to stay home. Then got to ask will employers pay people to stay at home that unlikely it is. For those who are exempt it up to them what they do with their life.
November 22, 2021 at 22:59 #1568646I’m largely indifferent to the idea as I’m vaccinated so I can carry on as before whether they come in or not. I think it’s a bit of a stretch to say that the unvaccinated will never be able to do anything again. I don’t think anyone is seriously suggesting this should be a permanent measure (Mr Davies excepted possibly ). Neither do I believe that it will lead to government tyranny and abuse of power as is no doubt suggested by some (not necessarily here) and I distrust this lot as much as anyone.
As I have said, absolutely it’s anyone’s choice to have a vaccine but that choice has consequences which you have to live with. The simple fact is unvaccinated covid patients are putting pressure on the NHS and those beds could and should be free for those who have conditions for which there is no vaccine and therefore no choice. If you bar the unvaccinated from things, they are less likely to catch it which is both good for them and the NHS.
November 22, 2021 at 23:13 #1568650AnonymousInactive- Total Posts 2553
Well, that’s a silly and pompous post IMO. You’ve surpassed yourself there, son.
November 22, 2021 at 23:24 #1568651AnonymousInactive- Total Posts 2553
November 22, 2021 at 23:26 #1568652AnonymousInactive- Total Posts 2553
No more from me tonight about Covid. I’m sick to death of it- no pun intended
November 22, 2021 at 23:27 #1568653Dickie you are younger than me – do you remember Dickie Dirts. They had a marvelous store in Westbourne Grove. ( Bloody awful shirts though)
The unvaxxed do not have a huge curtailement on their freedoms as they can do anything they like behind locked doors. ( Within reason – they can’t laugh at the masked.)
Could they not be best treated at home, if they pull the short straw, and thereby free up beds for those in masks ?
November 22, 2021 at 23:34 #1568656Can the unvaxxed still put out their cats ?
November 22, 2021 at 23:43 #1568658Have a nice night Tank
Richard when I said unvaccinated not do a lot again it a response to Ginge who said those unvaccinated stay away from super spreader events like a nightclub or a Football match. which I add those who are exempt you telling them stay at home and don’t go to a club or Football again.what the message it do to there mental health if that there life for rest of there days.
We seen in Wales and Scotland that vaccine passports not brought cases down
In Germany been using masks and covid pass this year and last week they had there highest daily infection since pandemic started. And been using covid pass for months
My last message tonight off to type my Golf Bets up
November 22, 2021 at 23:47 #1568660AnonymousInactive- Total Posts 2553
November 22, 2021 at 23:56 #1568667Is that your thumb yank or is it an imposter’s ? You said no more from me tonight about Covid. It also sounds as if as an unvaxxed your tolerance has been reached.
November 23, 2021 at 00:44 #1568676New passports for old
roll up you lazy glitches
November 23, 2021 at 00:46 #1568677Imposter’s thumb for a real one
tell a lie !
November 23, 2021 at 06:08 #1568682It is typical of the anti-vaxxer/civil liberties mentality that they believe they should be able to do literally whatever they like without consequences.
It’s an extreme form of selfishness and again underlines that only their civil liberties matter.
Others have the right not to want the unvaccinated anywhere near them and they don’t have to justify their reasons for this any more than the anti vaxxers have to justify their reasons for refusing the vaccine.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"November 23, 2021 at 07:06 #1568684There is no evidence vaccine passports work.
What we are witnessing in Europe now is governments and their medical advisers panicking. They have dug themselves into a hole. They will not admit they: overstated the threat from Covid back in spring 2020 and scared people out of their wits; and they know very little about how the virus behaves and how to treat it.
They have thrown everything at Covid but infections, hospital cases and deaths are still increasing. None of their policies have worked. This includes the vaccines, sold to us this time last year as the escape route but which do not prevent infection or transmission and which wear off in a matter of months.
They know the public are getting angry. Witness the riots in several countries. Therefore they have resorted to an old trick. Stigmatise a group as scapegoats so the public turn their anger on them, instead of where it should be. It is as old as the hills.
This situation has been going on for nearly two years now. It is not going to end until governments stop pretending they know what they are doing and just treat it as an endemic virus. But that is not going to happen because it would involve politicians and doctors admitting they got something wrong. The two groups of people least likely to do so.
November 23, 2021 at 07:14 #1568686We live in a selfish world sadly and mostly gone are the days people stopped to help granny to cross the road and more drivers rush past a queing filter lane to join it later and cause possible death by obstruction. Love thy neighbour replaced by lock that door.
You have stated this before ‘ there is only ‘ – I have stated it – it is the undeniable truth but the blind see what they want to see.
There will always be two sides to an argument – it used to be BBC v ITV. It is not black and white.
I have spotted Corky’s post above and will consume it with my tea.
November 23, 2021 at 08:50 #1568691Yes, filter lane behaviour for years has been an omen for what would happen in a Pandemic.
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