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Griff11, if you can’t handle the truth, just put your fingers back in your pockets. Show some sympathy for the horse’s connections. Mr. Wylie has been hit pretty hard by fatalities over the past two years. This is surely no fun and also no need for childish comments.
Handling the truth has never been an issue RubyLight, I think that issue may relate to others. I fully accept fatalities in the sport, I don’t like them, but if I can’t accept it, then I shouldn’t have an interest in it.
Your point insinuating that I had no sympathy for connections would be a very inaccurate assumption to make. I don’t know the Whylie’s so don’t have the personal connection that you may have, but I do know what it’s like to lose a horse and the impact on emotions that come with it.
You’ve missed my point, or tried to deflect it. It’s nothing to do with fatalities, connections, or racing, it’s the thought of some people sat watching a race waiting to pounce on a fatality and rush to get it announced online. Then there is the analysis from those distraught people about what happened or what the injury is. It gives me a visual of people with a morbid fixation for fatalities sat watching slo-mo’s over and over.
If people are so upset by fatalities, then perhaps in their best interests they should start watching badminton. (My sincere and humble apologies to any badminton players who find that comment offensive, it was just to maker a comparison).
Gutted at his loss … being brought down is just awful … so sorry for all who loved him … and his owners … gosh unbelievable losses ,,,
Poor Up For Review, in the wrong place and brought down at the first fence, it’s a sad day for racing and all those who loved and cared for this beautiful boy. RIP
@griff11
I kind of know why you posted those comments, I too feel uncomfortable when horses are posted up so soon after the event, I do feel we should show a little respect for connections and leave it for at least an hour or two.
If you had posted a comment relating to the loss of Up For Review (not graphic..I don’t like that either, but just a respect) alongside your remarks I think it
would have not been singled out at all as Greenasgrass has already remarked on Michael’s quickness to relay a fatality regarding the sad death of Forest Des Aigles yesterday and I also notice that he tends to just announce the fatality without further comment about the horse (just tearful emoji).As much as I feel for every horse who’s name appears on this Thread I don’t comment on every one in fact I dread seeing a new name here almost every day.
@michael80
Maybe just take a breath before you post so quickly, we sadly have all the time in the world to post a respect and there are no prizes for being first to post.RIP Up For Review
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...and I also notice that he tends to just announce the fatality without further comment about the horse (just tearful emoji).
Sound a bit like a machine, never finds the words to describe his feelings…. And I’ve always hated emojis when talking about death.
If I fear the worst when a horse has fallen/been injured this is usually my first port of call to fine out what has happened so I’m quite grateful to Michael for keeping us informed. I do think it was the wrong place and time for griff to respond in such a way and I found that quite upsetting [on top of the sadness of what happened to Up for Review].
Well. Here we are. He was one of my two favourite horses in training. I don’t know why. I just liked the look of him, and started watching out for where he would race next, watching his jumping improve as a novice, thinking he would be a Grand National horse.
I don’t think I’ve ever watched the National alone before but as it happened I was, in a hotel room in one of those golf club and spa places. My friends had already arrived and gone for their facials and whatnot so I settled down to watch the race before I went to find them. Turns out I was glad I was alone. You’ll all know the feeling if it’s ever happened to one that you especially liked.
The sun was shining so it was hard to see the silks in the charge to the first and I couldn’t see my one, but I could see grey Vintage Clouds quite easily with those Hemmings colours. Down, roll… getting up again – and a dark horse, down and doing that jerky kicking. Done for. Commentator saying “Vintage Clouds…” and the grey horse is up and away on 4 legs, good, I quite like Vintage Clouds, glad he’s OK…”…and Up For Review”. He only said two names. I only saw two horses. The commentator doesn’t often miss one and even if they do they’re normally quick to realise, but the field were already over the second fence and he’d only said those two. I listened carefully. He only said two.
It’s an easy process of elimination isn’t it? He said Vintage Clouds and Up For Review. Vintage Clouds is grey and the grey horse got up. So the dark horse, the kicking horse, that was Up For Review, my horse that I like. Liked.
At least when you see that kicking you know it’s going to be very quick and he likely didn’t feel anything (and Willie Mullins said after that he was dead by the time the vet reached him).
And I suppose I should just be glad for racing’s sake that it wasn’t Tiger Roll – the general public had never heard of Up For Review, the horse with a boring name who never won anything anyone has heard of.
But still, after the first ten seconds and one fence, I just sat and looked at the telly and didn’t really care who won after that.I never saw him in real life, I don’t know who bred him, I have no connection to the owners (though they seem nice on telly), I don’t know anyone who works in the yard…and, watching the rest of the race, it occurred to me that I was wrong, he wasn’t a modern National horse, he wouldn’t have won anyway…. but still and all…he was “my one” that I liked. Goodbye big fella.
Reading that back it sounds so utterly self absorbed, which I did not mean it to. Much sympathy to the people who did actually know and care for him in real life, and especially the Wylies- nobody deserves such a crappy run of misfortune least of all them.
greeasgrass; what you wrote was lovely. I feel guilty in a way in that he wasn’t a horse that I knew much about so there was an anonymity about his passing. I just wish people outside of racing [especially those awful journalists who gleefully leap on any injury or fatality] could understand how they touch our hearts….and how we never forget them.
Green I think you spoke for all of us that was a lovely straight from the heart post.
Synchronised was much more well known but I remember being so happy when he broke loose before the start of the race and I didn’t think they would catch him and he would be safe, but they did catch him and McCoy got back on and then he fell in the race but he got up, he was ok, but then his name appeared on here and it was the saddest moment I can remember, even now tears falling as I write. Remember waking up next morning and the memory coming back. He’s pictured on my 2019 IJF Calendar for the month of March being led in after winning the Gold Cup, 3 weeks later he was gone , still love that horse so much and still feel angry at them for not withdrawing him, he had nothing to prove let alone take part in a Grand National.
So sorry you lost your little fella on Saturday green, the fact that this horse lost his life threw a cloud over the whole race.
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...Greenasgrass – with you all the way on this one. Remember him being beaten at odds on in a two horse bumper but still looked promising. Was a magnificent sight under Townend in the Ultima travelling sublimely until blundering 3 out. Hoped there’d be a big day for him. RIP
Greenasgrass …I’ve just read your posting. I was there and I liked him on sight (I’d not heard of him before) … I took a nice photo of him calmly walking round in the paddock with his lad … I couldn’t believe what Timeform had written about him “strong, rather plain gelding” … no he was handsome not pretty pretty but well made and looked like a chaser … I know what they meant but plain was the wrong word imo … anyway I was in the stands with a direct view down the line of fences to Bechers. The sun was making the big screen difficult to see. I heard Vintage Clouds had gone but I could see his head as he got up and galloped off and I assumed he was OK. I didn’t hear the commentator say anything else had gone … so I was shocked when I saw the screens being erected. I hoped it was for a jockey (not that I wished any of them harm) because I knew if it was for a horse the outcome would not be what I wanted (early fallers get up if they’re not injured they don’t stay down winded …) … so I then started listening to the commentary and ticking off all the ones mentioned … I got it down to around 6 it could be … but I ended up contacting someone on Facebook who I knew was watching TV and she gave me the horrible news … the race was really a blur from then on and I struggled to celebrate Tiger Roll’s fabulous victory … in fact I stayed rooted watching at fence one until I saw the trailer take him away … so I missed Tiger Roll in the winner’s enclosure. I felt so sad and weird because all around me were going mental, buzzing about Tiger Roll and the placed horses they’d backed … all I could think about was Up For Review and his lad and connections … I’m glad you posted what you did …
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