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  • #187287
    Friggo
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    I find it pretty ironic (as well as tragic) that the only person to have acted with any shred of humility through this whole charade- pantomime, even- has been Andrew Sachs.

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    dave jay
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    It seems to me that the younger folk like Russel Brand because they can’t remember Frank Carson, Jim Davidson and all those other lame double-entrendre merchants of the late 70’s, that we all got so sick of.

    Like this non-sense.

    On the Buses[/url:3lw8fws6]

    .. russels even got the same hair do as reg’s mate, minus the hat of course.

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    It seems to me that the younger folk like Russel Brand because they can’t remember Frank Carson, Jim Davidson and all those other lame double-entrendre merchants of the late 70’s, that we all got so sick of.

    Like this non-sense.

    On the Buses[/url:33v3cqbu]

    Too true, nowt’s new.

    Max Miller way back whenever was the master of the double entendre, and all have been playing catch-up ever since:

    I was walking along this narrow mountain pass – so narrow that nobody else could pass you, when I saw a beautiful blonde walking towards me. A beautiful blonde with not a stitch on, yes, not a stitch on, lady. Cor blimey, I didn’t know whether to toss myself off or block her passage.

    Today’s “edgy” comedy seems no more than a combination of in-your-face gratuitous references to genitalia and coitus, liberally sprinkled with anglo-saxon invective. Sooo obvious, sooo tedious, sooo tired and sooo sixth-form

    Apparently Reg Varney is alive and kicking at the age of 92 and living out his days ‘twixt Dartmouth and Malta

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    Neil Watson
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    Ah the good old Double Entendre.

    Can be a very hard thing to pull off without making a mess of it, Also to get your lips round one i imagine can be a real mouthful.

    Anyway must dash, The Vicars daughter wants a helping hand having her bush trimmed and her flower needs tendering so i said i would pop round and give her one

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    Fnaar, fnaar .. Niel. That on the buses clip has enough material to keep Russel going for about a year.

    I heard him on the telly talking about Northerners being sub-human, blah, blah, blah .. it sounded just like Davidson when he used to do the thing about blacks, not so funny voice walk and everything.

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    I think Georgina Bailiie is emerging with less and less credit in all this. Front page of the Sun today says it all really. Max Clifford in there like a rat up a drain pipe too. All making a fair buck out of this. Fair enough? No, I don’t think so this time. Andrew Sachs have acted with so much dignity he must be squirming as he sees his grand daughter quoting in the Sun
    " He was a disappointment in bed." and more besides. She is getting more publicity than anyone at the moment it seems as far as the papers are concerned.
    She is as bad as the other two IMO and following the advice of people who will make money out of this but couldn’t give a toss about anyone else…
    How long before she is in FHM, Loaded, Nuts or Zoo?
    Pace your bets!!

    Quite agree – she’s cross and outraged and upset for grandpa all the way to the bank. How ironic.

    Legal concerns vis-a-vis not getting Corm into any bother prevent me from divulging any specific details on here. However, a friend of mine, who up until about three years ago used to be a gig-booker across the whole North London goth / glam / fetish scene centred around clubs like the Purple Turtle in Camden, called me up over the weekend, and described Ms Baillie’s behaviour in this affair as utterly in keeping with how she operated when she knew her back then.

    Further details from previous Baillie "conquests" are apparently blatted all over LiveJournal now.

    gc

    Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.

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    Catherine Tate is another prime example – some of her characters are very funny first time round – I absolutely adored the Nan character the first time I saw her. Now every “new” sketch is a rehash of the last and you can more or less predict what will be said and basically it became unfunny.

    The only problem with pursuing that argument to the nth degree, I guess, is that it presupposes that predicting how a sketch is going to conclude makes it any less funny.

    Yet we all knew that, for example, Harry Enfield’s Mr Don’t would always use his ageless sanctimonious put-down, that Kenny Everett’s Reg Prescott would have severed most or all of his vital limbs by the end of the skit, and that League of Gentleman‘s Matthew Chinnery would murder an animal in the most witless manner.

    Repetition or predictability in comedy doesn’t bother me per se, but maybe the distinction is how well-written or artful that repetition or predictability is. Tate’s Nan character doesn’t meet that basic criterion for me, and my experience with her (so to speak), is entirely the same as yours, Paul.

    gc

    Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.

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    the only programe that can make me cry with laughter these days is HIGNFY,….

    Oh god yes. The interplay between Tom Baker and Chris Addison this week had me in stiches.

    oh for the days of early Harry Enfield especially the aliens..

    Legend has it that the troublesome prosthetics alone stopped them from doing more "English for Aliens" sketches as Enfield and Whitehouse – rightly – thought the idea had legs. Altogether now – "Tree!" "Shop!" "Car!" "Baby Jesus!!"

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    Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.

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    I’m glad you bumped it, because your original post is a good read. I do agree that to an extent, there is a trashy and over hyped celebrity culture(especially in Britain). It’s not always their fault it has to be said, because they’re just playing to the morons who buy into their stuff.

    You touch on how the modern day celebrity culture can touch our minds. I think that yes they can, definetely. Then you have to look at the human mind, because it’s not about celebrities effecting us, it’s about us letting them effect us, if that makes sense.

    On the other hand there is the positive celebrity culture, who are part of the Hollywood product package for example. I think that they are the best type of celebrity, especially in America. Alot of them in my book are the real deal, and can touch millions of us with the art of acting. I won’t go into great detail just now, but films can make me what i would call ‘happily depressed’. What do i mean by that i hear you say, well let me explain. ‘Happily depressed’ is a feeling of joy at watching a cracking film, but a little bout of a depressing feeling at the same time because i kind of wish i could be them, and there’s nothing wrong with that.

    Films can grip and touch me like nothing else. This is what makes them so special, they have the power to make you think, to make you aspire to be people they portray, and the power to make you do and think.

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