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- August 28, 2023 at 21:51 #1661433
And one of them referred to the IHRB
Byrnes landed a well planned touch himself with three out of four runners winning. The interesting thing is his fifth runner of the day became a non-runner after picking up an injury on the way to the course. He was due to run in the race in which Anyway was backed from 28/1 down to even money.
It’s also interesting to know that Mr. Byrnes himself bought the winner at the 2021 Land Rover Sale. But the horse never ran for him and this surely is pure coincidence with his non-runner being involved in the race in which the gamble was landed.
He wins like a 1/5 shot, doesn’t he? Previous form was a solid 8th beaten 46 lengths in a handicap hurdle at Punchestown.
August 28, 2023 at 22:27 #1661436What a lovely story to warm the cockles of your heart.
It is just as well the owner was following in the car behind. It is also fortunate that the trainer has recently fitted a slipometer in his cabin so he could be alerted to the horse’s activity.
It was also just as well the horse didn’t mind travelling back home in a robin reliant. Oh I forgot, they were following in a horse box. And of course, the unfortunate horse always travels alone independently of any others from the same yard as it saves money in the event of one of them not wishing to go racing at anytime.There were no such slip ups for three of the other four horses who made it to the track and all of whom won.
Just as well the trainer’s other horse in the same race that he used to own won. The effect of non runners in handicaps eh?.
August 28, 2023 at 22:51 #1661438I like that bit about the slipometer, Sam….
August 29, 2023 at 01:15 #1661446How much longer are the Irish authorities going to allow this?
I rarely bet on Irish racing as field sizes are normally too big for my liking.
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I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysAugust 29, 2023 at 02:02 #1661448No doubt the “trainer” of anyway will get some type of ban and the orchestrator Mr byrnes will get off scott free
Especially since he freely admitted to having a good few quid on
The member of staff in my local shop told me that a customer had a £20 double on 2 of them at 9/2 and 8/1 in the morning, I must befriend this man as he clearly gets inside info
Ronan mcnally must be incredible bitter that he got punished severely but the resident mafioso don byrnes can carry on
I did benefit a small amount from it as got tullyhill backed for the Supreme and ballymore using the gambled horse in doubles once I noticed the money
Didn’t even bother watching the race it was only going to lose if falling
I always feel sorry for those who actually had a normal bet in these races when obvious fiddling has gone on
It’s always nice to see someone do the bookies for a large amount but it’s the normal punters who suffer really not the multi billion companies
August 29, 2023 at 07:33 #1661459Hell will freeze over before I have a bet on any race in Ireland outside of Group 1s and the very occasional big handicap.
I’m not helping make the market for people who like to pull betting stunts.
If everyone did the same as me the authorities would have to act because Irish Levy revenue would collapse.
No that British racing is much better – I seldom touch all the Class 5 and 6 stuff in midweek.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"August 29, 2023 at 07:52 #1661462“Byrnes was interviewed by the stewards after his runner Karloss was withdrawn from the race won by Anyway. He said the horse had slipped in the trailer and sweated up on the way to the course, so he felt it was in his best interests to be declared a non-runner.
He added that the owners of Karloss were travelling behind him and brought the horse back to his yard and that is why he did not arrive at the racecourse with his other runners.”
I wonder if Byrnes bothered to keep a straight face when he told the stewards that one.
August 29, 2023 at 08:25 #1661463I would say that most punters who have been betting as long as I have – over 40 years – have long since sadly come to accept backing non-triers and/or bumping into rivals clearly laid out for the race and showing dramatic form.
I, however, have never accepted it and, what’s more, I never will.
I swerve low-grade racing every day of the week and roll my eyes at punters continually moaning about backing non-triers or bumping into coup horses in a game they have surely known for a lifetime lacks integrity at the bottom end with useless – chinless! – authorities doing little about it.
I would no more have had a bet on any of the races involved yesterday than joined Wagner and marched on the Kremlin.
Simply give this nonsense the old body swerve, ladies and gentlemen – the alternative is indirectly putting money into the perpetrators’ pockets by making the market for them.
I dream of a day when perpetrators try to get a bet on and are told: “Sorry, literally no one wants a bet any more on any race in which you have, or are in any way connected with, a runner, so we’re not offering odds on it.”
It won’t ever happen – too many punters are lemmings – but I can dream, can’t I?!
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"August 29, 2023 at 09:35 #1661466They don’t run ‘em for us Chezza!
I do most of my betting in class 4,5, 6 races and quite enjoy trying to guess if today’s the day.
To be honest I don’t make a profit long term but I lose very little.
I accept the inevitable chicanery as just part of life’s rich tapestry.
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I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysAugust 29, 2023 at 09:42 #1661467“They don’t run ‘em for us Chezza!”
That fact had not escaped my attention over the years, sir!
Each to their own – so long as you’re enjoying yourself!
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"August 29, 2023 at 09:44 #1661468Have edited my previous post.
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I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysAugust 29, 2023 at 09:53 #1661469Let me guess – Kevin O’Ryan or whoever was there for RTV saw nothing unusual or newsworthy.
August 29, 2023 at 11:09 #1661474Look… no as they say in Ireland and increasingly in England, Listen, I enjoy a tickle as much as the next man. But at issue here is the welfare of a horse.
Said horse did not make it to the track. Now wouldn’t it have been easier to declare the horse a non runner by means of self certification? No harm needed to come to this noble horse to facilitate this nonsensical subterfuge. Now the horse may well have had to suffer having had an accident enroute. And that is where this affair stinks the whole house out.
Examination of said horse I’d say is an absolute must and upon the horse being found to be sound the trainer would of course be proved to be a liar. So it is a self fulfilling prophecy that the horse will have to met harm to prove him to be telling the truth.
This man who described his horses quite recently as low grade. This apology of a trainer who in his care lest anyone forget allowed his horse to be doped through negligence or otherwise (if otherwise God help the horse). VIKING HOARD.
The much maligned ( in these parts)Barney Curley never harmed or facilitated his horses to be doped in landing his touches.
What is worse is the total complicity of the entire game including the authorities, the bookmakers and the media who toddle alongside the trainer laughing away and saying ‘you’ve landed a nice touch there well done’. Well done if no horse has come to harm to make it easier.August 29, 2023 at 11:54 #1661476“The much maligned ( in these parts)Barney Curley never harmed or facilitated his horses to be doped in landing his touches.”
Actually Curley was found guilty of running a horse he trained which was found to have the sedative ACP in its system. And he presumably was guilty as he paid the fine and didn’t appeal.
You may choose to think that this was a one off and that Curley was caught on the only occasion he used ACP to ensure that his runner would be beaten out of sight and dropped vast amounts by the handicapper.
I’m inclined to think that given beaten longshots are very rarely tested, this happened more often than the one time he was caught.
August 29, 2023 at 12:17 #1661477“The media who toddle alongside the trainer laughing away”.
O’Ryan was exactly like that with Byrnes at Sligo last week when one of his horses was punted off the boards and hacked up.
He was also on duty at Tramore earlier in the year when two well fancied horses trained by Byrnes drifted like barges and finished tailed off. But he did not notice anything.
August 29, 2023 at 12:40 #1661478The powers that be saw fit to allow this name:
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I wonder what other names could be registered?
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UrpayinforritAugust 29, 2023 at 14:06 #1661481I think we all remember this one 49 years ago. It was the same Bank Holiday
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