February 21, 2021 at 09:30 #1523943shipithollabollaBlocked
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Shots fired in the Twittersphere overnight with gelatinous irritant Tony Calvin referring to the venerable Joe ‘Steeplechasing’ McNally as a “knowing idiot” for his comments about Betway restrictions.
It reflects poorly on racing to see two of the oldest and most experienced racing people carrying on like children.
I’m not sure if there is a history of animosity between the two old campaigners, but will an apology be forthcoming?February 21, 2021 at 10:09 #1523945Nathan HughesParticipant
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I met Tony’s wife once in Tenerife
I asked her why she was looking so sad…
she told me that her and Tony had a argument and that Tony decided that they need a months separation
I said what is wrong with that
she told me the Month is up tomorrow..
Was it Tony that tweeted that?
if so perhaps he could update his bio
WON’T be actively running account myself for a whileMember since March 2008February 21, 2021 at 10:50 #1523952adminKeymaster
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I don’t see much animosity behind it. Tony is well known for his no nonsense and sometimes ill-advised outbursts but Steeplechasing rises above it all.
DavidFebruary 21, 2021 at 10:55 #1523955
No one has to read it – I haven’t and don’t plan to.
Tony Calvin afaik works for bookmakers, it’s kinda his job to defend them.
The other chap afaik doesn’t – that gives him the edge in debates as he doesn’t need to be mindful what any paymaster will think.February 21, 2021 at 12:08 #1523968shipithollabollaBlocked
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Personally I think Calvin is off target with his criticism of Bet365 leaving “stale” prices up after the Friday afternoon tipsters have their say.
I think it’s an all-too-rare case, in this age of all firms on Oddschecker all being almost the same price, of compilers who actually have a feel and an opinion. All too often you see a tipster (Calvin for one) put something up and think “rather him than me with that one”. But 30 minutes later it’s a sea of blue on Oddschecker, apart from 365. More often than not, the horse will be trading at the advised price or bigger on the exchange the next morning. I think 365 are happy to take tipster follower business where possible, knowing that most of them are ultimately breakeven or worse for all that they might make a few waves at 4pm.
I wonder if it’s an ego thing. 365 choose to ignore tipster “noise” as much as possible and Calvin feels slighted. It must be quite the power trip to advise something e/w 8 places with the Betfair Sportsbook and see all the dominos fall. He doesn’t like them standing up and basically saying they don’t rate his opinions.February 21, 2021 at 12:20 #1523970
Whether it is Tony Calvin or anyone else, I look at who they work for, then I look at who they DON’T work for, then I view their words through that prism.February 21, 2021 at 13:04 #1523981
Ship writes.. “I think it’s an all-too-rare case…
Just love the case element and drama of it.
Old man Davies with his mystery companion pitches it just perfectly, and could have easily donned a wig with Wit and I, and early days, beaten the hell out of the Virus and kicked it into touch with three, sharp, mindful, boots.February 21, 2021 at 14:20 #1523998
Oi, less of the “old,” sir!
That’s “oldER” if you don’t mind!
That aside, good point, well made – standard.February 21, 2021 at 17:00 #1524070thewexfordmanParticipant
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“Your one of these ‘take-out merchants’, take out all you can”… that famous B Curley quote is applicable to Mr C.February 21, 2021 at 18:26 #1524075SteeplechasingParticipant
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At least Tony had the brains not to respond to me, unlike Alan Alger, the Betway PR, whose intervention on the thread about his company ought to be set up as a case study for all budding PRs on when to keep quiet.
BTW, I thought Champ ran an immense race today. Henderson had thought his wind might have gone wrong in the RSA. If you watch the last two fences of that again and concentrate on Champ a few strides after the last, he goes from a head down struggle to picking his head right up suddenly and galloping to the line. It was an astonishing win as it was; if he did have a wind problem during it, he must be the horse of a lifetime, and a hell of a bet in the Gold Cup.
BTW, Shipit, I’d say Tony Calvin’s about 15 years younger than I am. He just looks old, while I look so fresh and spry.
Never argue with a fool. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience, then onlookers might not be able to tell the difference. https://lazybet.com/February 21, 2021 at 18:38 #1524076Nathan HughesParticipant
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Joe knows…Member since March 2008February 21, 2021 at 18:46 #1524079
I sniffed Joe on here long before he posted. He won’t argue with fools so I’m orf.February 21, 2021 at 20:38 #1524094
Very good of the fresh and spry to return back to his old home for a snap visit.
As for Ol’ Davies – I was referring to internet years Sir !February 21, 2021 at 20:58 #1524096TankParticipant
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And this is your problem, gamble
Nobody knows what the hell you are talking about most of the time- that’s why you rarely get replies.February 21, 2021 at 21:02 #1524097
“As for Ol’ Davies – I was referring to internet years, Sir!”
And Tank, never being quite sure what gamble means is integral to my enjoyment of gamble’s postings!
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