TV alert- Race Horses, BBC 4

[Roseblossom]

thought it was ok
lacked a bit of depth
meaning training methods,owners,race planning

But the film wasn’t intended as a look at racing – the film maker was really only interested in the horses themselves, who they were and what they were like. From the articles I’ve read I suspect there was a bit of pressure to include the more people-focused bits and she would have prefered to make a film where there was pretty much no human dialogue at all.

I loved it, swearing and all (I ‘found’ most of my swearwords from being bitten/stood on/kickd.dropped by horses!), and so did a couple of people I know who aren’t interested in racing at all.

[stilvi]

thought it was ok
lacked a bit of depth
meaning training methods,owners,race planning

I loved it, swearing and all (I ‘found’ most of my swearwords from being bitten/stood on/kickd.dropped by horses!), and so did a couple of people I know who aren’t interested in racing at all.

Thanks for educating everyone. I think most people in cities ‘find’ their swear words from parents who couldn’t give a monkeys about standards of behaviour.

[anthonycutt]

thought it was ok
lacked a bit of depth
meaning training methods,owners,race planning

I loved it, swearing and all (I ‘found’ most of my swearwords from being bitten/stood on/kickd.dropped by horses!), and so did a couple of people I know who aren’t interested in racing at all.

Thanks for educating everyone. I think most people in cities ‘find’ their swear words from parents who couldn’t give a monkeys about standards of behaviour.

Give it a rest would you please?

EDIT: I take this back. Apologies.

[jafeica26]

This will be shown on RTE1 on Tue 16th March at 10:15 for anyone in Ireland who hasn’t seen in. I heard some people complaining on the radio today about the subtitles being used because of the Wexford accent. Lucky they didn’t use a Cork/Kerry trainer.

As for the swearing, it’s everyday language over here in Ireland, in all walks of life and all levels of society. I’m sure members of the BBC trust would have heart failure if they heard the language that is allowed on radio and tv here at all hours of the day. Very few words would be regarded as forbidden. A government minister even used the f word against an opposition politician in the Dail (Irish parliament) recently.

[Imperial Call]

This will be shown on RTE1 on Tue 16th March at 10:15 for anyone in Ireland who hasn’t seen in. I heard some people complaining on the radio today about the subtitles being used because of the Wexford accent. Lucky they didn’t use a Cork/Kerry trainer.

As for the swearing, it’s everyday language over here in Ireland, in all walks of life and all levels of society. I’m sure members of the BBC trust would have heart failure if they heard the language that is allowed on radio and tv here at all hours of the day. Very few words would be regarded as forbidden.

A government minister even used the f word against an opposition politician in the Dail (Irish parliament) recently.

Paul Gogarty isn’t a minister thankfully!

[Drone]

A most pleasant film that had me smiling throughout.

The lack of commentary was welcome as was the near-lack of background muzak: the silence when focussing on the horses added to the sense of wonder and mystery emanated by these noble animals

Can’t say the swearing bothered me one bit and infact added to the raw, cold reality the film managed to capture so well

If Stilvi thinks this is a new phenomenon in male-dominated ‘blue-collar’ work places then he must have led a very sheltered life: not been downt’pit, served in HM Forces, clocked on at the factory gates, or ever worked up the sweat of honest labour and slaked the thirst early doors in t’Saloon Bar then?

Trouble is these days four-letter words have become

de rigeur

in stage-set fictional TV programmes: generally ugly, too ‘in-your-face’ and don’t ring true

Anyway, as mentioned elsewhere, the Irish mutter oaths with such a poetic euphony it is music to the ears

fockenell

[stilvi]

If Stilvi thinks this is a new phenomenon in male-dominated ‘blue-collar’ work places then he must have led a very sheltered life: not been downt’pit, served in HM Forces, clocked on at the factory gates, or ever worked up the sweat of honest labour and slaked the thirst early doors in t’Saloon Bar then?

Rather than myself living a very sheltered life I think it is yourself and others who appear to want to exist within your own little bubbles. Fortunately, where I work I would be warned and then sacked for swearing, not glorified. These days swearing is not just some sort of male bonding exercise – some women are quite the expert as well.

You probably have no idea but there is huge problem with the standards of behaviour and the situation is not getting any better. We are breeding a generation who have no respect for anything or anybody. That situation is not helped by a liberal acceptance of anything goes as long as it is not on my doorstep. Last week school suspension and expulsion figures were announced in Birmingham which were a disgrace. Our prisons are full and with stiffer sentences could probably be filled twice over. Those people probably enjoy the odd swear word as well.

Appreciate this thread should be about whether the programme was any good or not but if people are going to keep banging on about how they enjoyed the swearing I am not going to let it go even if sadly I appear to be minority of one.

[Drone]

Not sure what ‘my own little bubble’ is but anyway…where’s the glorification? this was just real ‘reality television’ warts and all, like it or not. Would you have preferred caring Auntie Beeb to have pressed the censoring bleep every time Nolan muttered something she thought unsuitable for the ears of the masses? Tell it like it is, show it like it is. Thank you ma’am I can take it

I am old-fashioned enough or chauvanistic enough – take your pick – to dislike swearing in women; there does seem to be a sizeable minority amongst today’s fairer sex who believe that emulating the undesirable characteristics of we daft men is a vital part of emancipation viz swearing, boozing, fighting and putting it about: the ladette culture.

A thoroughly undesirable consequence of this seems to be that it’s now okay for men to swear when in the company of women. Something that was strictly taboo however blue your collar or how ever ‘colourful’ your language was when in male-only company

Don’t know how old you are Stilvi but when I was at (Grammar) school in the 60s and early 70s we boys all swore like buggery. It ain’t tough and it ain’t clever; it’s just the way it is and always was

Really can’t be bothered to debate it, but for what it’s worth I suspect your belief that the volume of anglo-saxon invective mouthed is directly proportional to "behaviour" "respect" "school suspension" and the prison population is baloney, or as Mr Nolan might put it ******* baloney, though I probably do "have no idea" as you were kind enough to point out

Young people today eh?

Bring back National Service

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