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Triumph / Bumper

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  • #951
    Lovely Lady
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    I’d like to hear your views on these 2 fun races please.

    I’m going with Lounaos for the Triumph with prevailing soft ground conditions in her favour, although we all know that could easily change but she seems to have speed and stays well – just right for this race – a 3 miler in the making.    Also I think she’s better than Snow Drop and Shawiya other fillies that won this, so with her allowance – that’s the one for me.    Hoping she turns out as good as  Mysilv in the long run.  

    I like this Tot O’Whiskey for the Bumper and really want him to win.  Did it so easily at Catterick, goes on good or soft   but I also like the current favourite Cork All Star as he goes on any going but being by Fasliyev I find that a bit strange for this event but on what form there is to go by he seems a bit clear of the others I would say.

    I see Walsh may ride Mad Fish assuming he gets in the race as a maiden, but I’m not sure he’d reverse it with Aranleigh and I don’t like all this heavy going  form for Cheltenham in any case, do you ?  Hmmm…Mad Fish, I love that name…lol..wonder if it’ll be Mrs Haddock’s choice.

    I wouldn’t associate Mr Jefferson with a champion bumper normally but seeing as I’ve had a nice cup of tea and a piece of cake in his kitchen*,  I’ll take a chance –   Lounaos / Tot.

    <br>*oi! it was a club visit..<br>

    #42517
    Seagull
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    (Edited by Seagull at 11:25 am on Mar. 2, 2007)

    #42518
    bluechariot
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    "I wouldn’t associate Mr Jefferson with a champion bumper "

    Mr Jefferson won the champion bumper with Dato Star.

    Too early to say if it will be soft at the festival, Cheltenham drains very fast these days.

    #42519
    Lovely Lady
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    oops…lol – thanks for showing me up.    Now he was a star !

    #42520
    Aragorn
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    I’m going to back Aranleigh.

    #42521
    Seagull
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    I dont think Willie Mullins horse Mad Fish has done enough to qualify and as there are many entries that have done far better I have laid this horse on betfair as I feel it will not make the cut.

    There are 2 runnners that interest me. <br>Shirley Casper this horse has had the 3 runs and won 2 and 1 second and has beaten Mick The Man so the form is top drawer. Also very interesting is it has been well backed on betfair.

    Stadbrook is another I like especially if the ground is soft.<br>This horse won a 25 runner bumper and beat two massive Irish hopes, Windy Harbour and Prime Massini.<br>When it run at Gowran Park the ground was desperate but it was doing fine but denied a clear run at a crucial time in the race.

    #42522
    Danny
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    Kia Kaha in the bumper e.w 500-1 on betfair and mountain in the truimph

    #42523
    Aidan
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    Mad Fish will comfortably qualify for the bumper as it is based on ratings and his bumper form is one of the highest ratings. He has not run again as there is little or no need and he has virtually guaranteed a spot by the BHB handicapper.

    (Edited by Aidan at 3:11 pm on Mar. 4, 2007)

    #42524
    davidjohnson
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    Do the BHB publish bumper ratings? I know they compile them.

    #42525
    apracing
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    <br>DJ,

    No they don’t – and please don’t encourage it. We have enough bumper races already without introducing N H Flat Handicaps!

    AP

    #42526
    Chubs
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    L LADY<br>i think you are talking a load of shyte about tot o whiskey that horse wont even make the frame im afraid <br>look elsewhere 4 the winner:cool:

    #42527
    PAULCS
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    <br>According to the trainer, Stradbrook has more class than Hairy Molly.

    #42528
    DeadlySins
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    I’d love Katchit towin the Triumph but I’ll be on Lounaos with the weight allowance.<br>I heard a whisper a while ago about Mad Fish (W. Mullins) for the Bumper and whilst he was beaten first time out under rules I’d be prepared to give him a chance if he runs given the trainers record.

    #42529
    Seagull
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    Aidan,<br>Willie Mullins is ramping up the chances of Mad Fish making the cut. <br>On all known form (and this is what is looked at regarding what horse can qualify or not) Mad Fish should not make the cut from the current list of entries.<br>Last season one of the horses Willie Mullins was ‘talking up’ as a fancy chance failed to make the cut.<br>(Same as the season before)

    I could well be wrong and Mad Fish wins the race but at current prices there is zero value and its a lay for me.

    With regard to Stadbrook this could become an English winner as Joseph Crowley no longer trains it as J.P. Mc Mannus purchased it and its trained at Jackdaws Castle England by Jonjoe so  likely to be ridden by A.P. Mc Coy.<br>The price will tumble if A.P. is riding!<br>As Pauls has already mentioned Joe Crowley rates Stradbrook better than the horse he won the race with last year.

    #42530
    aston
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    Lounaos is my banker for the week. Im on at 8s and I’ll be going in again.<br>I like Den of Iniquity for the bumper. Llewellyn has two live ones for this, but Im pretty sure he will only run this one so as he can take the ride himself. Of course the owners might have something to say, but I thought I read somewhere that he would keep one for Aintree.

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