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  • #9121
    The Eye Of Sauron
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    ……"Horse X will only run if ground conditions are suitable"

    Why are trainers allowed to merely state this- how do punters know what ground conditions are ‘suitable’?

    Today, on the other hand, the Alners stated of Silver Inngot at Exeter that he ‘will run only if there is sufficient rain’ which is fine and informative, but why can’t more trainers be like that?

    #185754
    TheCheekster
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    Don’t take notice of such comments, they mean nothing with the BHAl. They have no official bearing on the non runner situation.

    #185756
    highflyer1
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    I honestly don’t think it takes a lot of working out.

    If the forecast going was on the fast side, the Trainer would be looking for rain. On the slow side, he would be looking for it to dry out a bit.

    Further clues, if needed, would come from a glance at the horse’s record.

    #185767
    % MAN
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    What it really means is:-

    "I have cocked up in entering the horse and I should have taken it out at the final decs stage. However I have seen a changeable weather forecast which gives me an easy way out without picking up a self-certificate ban"

    – or am I being to cynical?

    #185799
    Smithy
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    I honestly don’t think it takes a lot of working out.

    If the forecast going was on the fast side, the Trainer would be looking for rain. On the slow side, he would be looking for it to dry out a bit.

    Further clues, if needed, would come from a glance at the horse’s record.

    That is all well and good, but why not say ‘horse X only runs if further rain’

    This ‘only runs if going suitable’ is a load of tosh that means nothing.

    #185829
    apracing
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    I could never understand why the Racing Post bother to print these statements, since they invariably serve only to confuse the situation.

    As mentioned above, they are nothing to do with official racing authorities – in fact if I wanted to add this proviso with a horse of my own, I’d have no idea how to go about it.

    Do the trainers ring up the Post, or the Press Association?

    Agree with the original poster that ‘runs only if ground is suitable’ is completely pointless, as surely that applies to every horse declared. After all, who’d ever say ‘runs only if ground is unsuitable’!

    #185843
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    No

    it does apply to every horse…. if the ground is safe some trainers are happy enough to let their horse run. A poor effort helps the horse’s handicap mark.

    byefrom
    carlisle

    #185930
    Anonymous
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    I saw one in the RP the other day….

    " Jockey reported that the gelding was unsuited by the good ground "

    ….oh wait lets just have a look down here at the rest of the form..ahh yes found what im looking for, low n’ behold the horse won on " good " ground a meer 2 weeks prior to the race.

    Form book is worthless and this is another reason to back up my belief

    #185970
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    I saw one in the RP the other day….
    " Jockey reported that the gelding was unsuited by the good ground "
    ….oh wait lets just have a look down here at the rest of the form..ahh yes found what im looking for, low n’ behold the horse won on " good " ground a meer 2 weeks prior to the race.

    Form book is worthless and this is another reason to back up my belief

    Trouble is one clerk of the course’s ‘Good’ can be another’s ‘Good-Firm but we don’t like to put Firm in the going so we’ll just say Good’ and can be yet another’s ‘Definitely on the soft side but Star Horse X down to run in the big race only likes it Good so that’s what we’ll call it to make sure he still comes here’!

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