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- December 1, 2008 at 12:38 #9476December 1, 2008 at 13:13 #193502
It sets a very worrying precedent.
The one good thing that may come of this is that it should cost Gorbals Mick his job!!!
December 1, 2008 at 14:05 #193514Agree completey with previous posters.
What is more worrying though is that I’m not actually that surprised at the news.
December 1, 2008 at 15:42 #193534Agree. This is pretty disgusting stuff, more reminisent of Putin’s Russia than anywhere else. It comes from the top too. There is an authoritarian streak in this administration. You can be certain that the police were guided by the goverment here
I have barely agreed with one word that Harriet "Brains" Harman has uttered over the years, but interesting that shes taken an opposite view to Smith
December 1, 2008 at 15:54 #193548I’m a law-abiding subject. I’ve got nothing to hide. These laws won’t affect me.
Shouldn’t they be banging him up for sixty days while they look for the evidence?
December 1, 2008 at 16:10 #193554Clearly, the guy they are lining up to take over from Ian Blair is just as big an ars*ehole as his predecessor.
And it’s typical that New Labour trot out platitudes about not interfering with the Met’s activities, instead of displaying outrage at the gross injustice of fingering a parlimentarian for doing his job.
What a shower of self-serving wankers.
December 1, 2008 at 18:51 #193588Strange times indeed. Last week we witnessed a Conservative shadow chancellor warning us of the perils of tax cuts. This week, the party of Wellington, Derby, Churchill and Thatcher is exercised by the encroachment of the police state and the erosion of our civil liberties. What next: abolition of the monarchy?
December 1, 2008 at 20:24 #193601Hope so….something ive long advocated. Not that theyve done anything about my suggestions yet
December 1, 2008 at 21:22 #193615The problem with abolishing the monarcy is you still need to have a head of state .. and no-one has worked out a reasonable alternative.
December 1, 2008 at 21:55 #193619May be this is deserving of a thread of its own, but as we’re discussing clandestine manouvers by the government….
Apparently, Jose Manuel Barroso (whoever that is), has revelealed that he believes Britain is closer than ever before to joining the euro.
I firmly believe that the Governemt should come clean regarding this issue and whether or not it is being discussed. Clearly, this goes against public opinion on the issue.
Surely, finally, this would be the final nail that brings down this shower of sh!te?
December 1, 2008 at 22:41 #193634I enjoy a mixed metaphor as much as the next chap, but I am confused and ever so slightly disturbed by this:
Surely, finally, this would be the final nail that brings down this shower of sh!te?
Should I be buying a hammer or a shower cap?
December 2, 2008 at 00:56 #193650I’m putting myself up for head of state…..
NEW TOPIC..
December 2, 2008 at 16:45 #193748I am confused. Not for the first time. I read this story and fail to see the spin you are all putting on this.
Any MP has some protection for what they say in parliament but has to abide by the laws of the land like any subject. They are not immune from any police investigation.
It appears that a civil servant has been systematically leaking stories to Green over a long period and has been internally investigated. It also appears that this civil servant has a long history with Green including previously having applied for a job working for him. Another senior civil servant reported this matter to the police as part of this inquirey and they have investigated. Smith says she knew of the police investigation on the Civil servant but nothing on the MP and refuses to apologise.
Whether the civil servant was right or wrong is not the issue. Governments need to be able to trust their permanent civil servant confidentiality and not let their political leaning get the better of them leaking what they se fit.
All this could be smoke and mirrors to deflect from Green’s manipulation of his mole. I hear the police investigation is ongoing so let’s wait for the evidence to see if any laws have been broken. I do not know what evidence the police had to take such action. They did similar with the cash for honours affair.
December 2, 2008 at 23:07 #193880I read this story and fail to see the spin you are all putting on this.
.…. what spin Kevin, David Cameron, the Liberal bloke or William Hague?
Everyone seems a bit bemused that an MP has been arrested under the terrorism act, except you. Care to share.
December 3, 2008 at 00:23 #193905Per Kevin:-
They did similar with the cash for honours affair
Oh yes – that’s right, they banged Blair up for 9 hours and took away all his personal letters and computer, then raided his office in the House of Commons; how could I possibly have forgot that!
December 3, 2008 at 04:48 #193967Dave,
If you read further than the first line you will see my points shared for all.
Parliamentary privilege is not criminal immunity. The police have been into MPs offices before. The spin is the suggestion is that this is/was this government trying to attack some MP on some crusade to keep the people informed rather than a senior civil servant and the police upsetting MPs perceptions of their parliamentary privilege.
Most likely this was an MP using a bias civil servant to gain information to selectively use for his own political gains. Possibly a tad illegally i.e. coersion, monies involved. I am prepared to wait and see. If Green has not broke the law then he has nothing to worry about.
Try releasing some of your company’s secret information to your competitors and see how long you are in a job for.
December 3, 2008 at 14:41 #194015Dave,
If you read further than the first line you will see my points shared for all.
Parliamentary privilege is not criminal immunity.
Maybe so, Kevin, but leaking Civil Service documents is not terrorism either, is it?
I am appalled that anyone could try and defend this action against Green. We live in an alleged democracy, and in our democracy, one of the primary functions of Her Majesty’s Opposition is to expose incompetency, corruption and hypocrisy on the part of her Majesty’s Government.
That is all that Green has been engaged in, yet the Met are using inappropriate powers to investigate him, and will try and use an obscure law to prosecute him. If successful, it would nueter the Opposition parties, not just for the duration of this Parliament, but for all parliament’s thereafter.
It is an utter scandal that this has been allowed to happen, and the DPP will hopefully tell the Met that it cannot be prosecuted.
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